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How many people have CCP's with no issues?

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I am a long time fan of Walther pistols, I own several of them from A WW2 PP to a PPQ. I have never had any issues with any of my Walther"s, I am in the market for a pistol for my wife. Looking for low recoil and easy to handle, The CCP fits the bill but with all the horror stories about this pistol it makes me hesitant to buy one. The number 1 requirement for me and a semi auto pistol is reliability.



How many people have had there CCP run 1,000 + rounds with no issues?
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Target99
Get her the CCP M2 that doesn't require the stinking plastic tool. :(
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I can’t speak to the 1000 round mark, I’m at 550. I had one issue in the 1st box of 50 when I was rapidly emptying the mag, one handed, trying to limp wrist the gun. On round seven of eight, the gun failed to go into battery. This happened with the gun as it was, straight from the factory...covered in oil and shavings. After the 1st box of 50, the gun was completely taken apart and cleaned thoroughly. Then reassembled with lubricant at the recommended points. My CCP is very reliable, even in my wife’s small hands. In your situation, I’d consider the M2. The one thing I don’t like about the CCP, is the accessory rail in front of the trigger guard. It makes holstering a little difficult and holster options should be full length...as the rail catches coming out.
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3JFamily
I picked up a used CCP.

Only 1 range trip so far. I've only run 10 mags through it, 80 rounds.
Results were:
Federal Champion 115 gr. FMJ RN Brass ammo
1 fail to feed jam, nose dived round, 2nd round 2nd mag. Myself shooting.
We also had 2 instances of failure to hold open after last round. Wife was shooting both times.
Other than that no other issues.

Can't vouch for reliability just yet but it seems to be headed in that direction.

Sent it in for recall. Will get to range again soon. Have a full 200 round box of ammo just waiting for the CCP.
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Mandomom
I have a CCP M2, I have only had about 3 or 4 failures to feed (out of about 500 hundred rounds), and that was from bulk ammo we bought. It eats anything else I put through it, Winchester White box, Federal, Remington, or reloads, and I carry Sig Sauer defense rounds. It is easy to take down and clean too. The more I shoot it, the more I like it.
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My experience with the CCP, original, was horrible. I dumped it after 900 rounds. I should have dumped it sooner but I kept trying "just one more remedy". If you get one, be sure it's the M2. I haven't tried an M2 and don't intend to ever own another CCP, but if you do decide to try a CCP the updated model is the only way to go. Maybe they've fixed the seven or eight separate identifiable issues I had with mine.
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I have an original CCP. It has about 2000 rounds through it and “I” have not had any issues.
But we brought it for my wife who had numerous failure to feeds. When it was new she couldn’t make it through a mag with out a failure. She would hand it to me and I’d have no issues. I chalked it up to limp wristing, but she’s a good shot with good form and a LEO, so she has had her share of time at the range. Last week she shot it and went through 100 rounds no issues. We both feel we are probably most accurate with that gun, for what that’s worth
Follow up shots are easy, right back on target better then my PPS or PPQ as far as that goes. But it’s hard to recommend with all the other people’s issues. I think I got lucky.
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I just took my new CCP to the range today. ZERO malfunctions. I took it straight from the case, no cleaning or lubing, fired close to 100 rounds and had no issues whatsoever.

I shot a couple different Federal personal defense loads- HST and HI-Shock/Tactical Bonded; Perfecta, and Blazer Brass. As a contrast, my H&K P30 stovepipe'd the Perfecta five times.

I've shot just about everything out there; I'm retired LEO, carried Glock .40 for the majority of my career...never did like Glocks, as I had a natural tendency to shoot every one to the left, due to the grip, my large hands and long fingers. This little Walther shot completely point of aim for me. I know there are people having problems with them, and I think that some of the problems are produced by the shooter, but we also saw brand new Glocks have issues that were not shooter induced.
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Let me start off by saying that our CCP is the first gun we have owned, so it is a bit of our training, gun so to speak. I would estimate we are about 2500 rounds in and I had to learn about cleaning, oiling, general care and everything else that comes with being a 1st time gun owner. We have also learned about malfunctions and jams, limpwristing, etc... and I can say with all confidence that any of those have been due to our learning process and NOT the CCP. The grip is perfection, and my wife absolutely loves shooting it. We have tried a variety of guns to test out and she has yet to find anything she likes better. We are both very accurate with it and it is her EDC now.

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I just bought this as my first gun and hopefully my ccw. I have the m2. I had one malfunction that was my fault. I rode the slide lock and it did not cycle, instead stayed partially open. After that nothing happened when I corrected my grip. What I did have issues with which again is my fault is limp wristing. This is not my first time shooting but it was on my own and no one correcting me. I didn’t expect the mild snappiness. I know more about proper gripping technique from research now so I hope that the next time is better. I was using Winchester white box from Walmart. The grip, as everyone else has stated, is great for this size.
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Ekjunge
I had a CCP that was a very early one with about 5000 rounds through it without any issues, (I actually had seven issues over that period, but they were all my fault, and three were when I was trying to induce a failure.

My dad had a CCP and it has three thousand rounds with no issues.


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bugman53 said:
I am a long time fan of Walther pistols, I own several of them from A WW2 PP to a PPQ. I have never had any issues with any of my Walther"s, I am in the market for a pistol for my wife. Looking for low recoil and easy to handle, The CCP fits the bill but with all the horror stories about this pistol it makes me hesitant to buy one. The number 1 requirement for me and a semi auto pistol is reliability.



How many people have had there CCP run 1,000 + rounds with no issues?
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Get the CCP M2 model. The original had jamming issues but not all of them. SOme people who've owned the original fired them endlessly without problems but the CCP is the improved and revised model with a much better reliability record so far.

Having owned the CCP M2 now for about 4 months the thing that impresses me most is how accurate this gun is. It outshoots my S&W Shield 9mm easily.

Add in the class leading ergonomics and the CCP M2 is a big winner for me.

The trigger still needs work. it's only average I think and the reset is very long. I assume that this is done to make it suitable for self defense where you might make mistakes with a real fast trigger but I don't like it that much. Otherwise it is my favorite 9mm semiautomatic of all the pistols currently available that I am familiar with although I think I might like the PPQ SC better if I had one.

Oh yeah, my wife loves the CCP M2 so there's that to consider as well.
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weaselfire
Original CCP here, several thousand rounds pre and post recall with no issues. Very early manufacture.

FWIW, I have the Holy Trinity of Walther's famously bad guns, the CCP, PK380 and an original P22. Only issue on any, over thousands of rounds, is the P22 fails to cycle with some ammo.

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rotorhead1026
I have a CCP M2 bought about a month ago. Just passed 500 rounds today.

I stripped and cleaned the pistol before the first range trip, then didn't clean until this evening. Yeah, it got dirty. :)

There were a few FTF or FTE early on, but usually only when I chambered a round from a full mag. There was a lot of drag on the round second from top, pulling it somewhat forward. That second round would FTF (slide didn't quite make into battery), or would FTE (jam or stovepipe in the chamber). Once I started chambering from a mag with only one round, things became quite reliable.

Today I mixed JHP's, FMJ's, and FMJ flat points (American Eagle) in the same mag. I had one fail to eject with a FMJ FP jammed under the empty. Towards the end the FMJ FP would nose into the feed ramp and stop; a light tap on the rear of the slide would snap the pistol into battery. Mind you, at this point the pistol was quite grimy.

Today the gun was 100% reliable with Rem. terminal perf. 147g and 115g JHP's, and various FMJ's. Only when the FP were introduced (mixed and unmixed) were there hiccups.

I cleaned the CCP tonight, and will try the flat points again later. Overall I'm reasonably satisfied, especially after hearing some of the horror stories here. :)
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I don't think there is any way of knowing how many CCPs function 100% but it would sure be good if someone could identify why some do and some don't. There has got to be something that could be tracked down. These are just mechanical tools... 1917
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This is highly subjective data based on the gun, the shooter, the ammo used, etc., etc. Glock puts out a fair amount of duds and Hi Point puts out some quality machines that just shoot and shoot. Of course the opposite is true with both brands as well, perhaps with differing percentages (perhaps not). Plus gun forums are great places for data, as long as you realize the only people who come here are people who love a specific gun, are having issues with a specific gun, or hate a specific gun. The vast majority of people who have purchased CCP's will never come to this forum or report on if their guns are problematic or smooth running machines. Walther certainly isn't going to tell you. The best way to tell is to look at the market. Since the CCP is still selling and selling fairly well you can take away that more people are happy than unhappy and word of mouth and range rentals are still driving sales.
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I think the problems with the original CCP pistol have really softened interest in the CCP M2. If Walther sticks with it the new gun it may eventually truly catch on.

The worst person to try and sell a CCP M2 is someone who's first expereince with a Walther was the CCP model.

I liked the CCP a lot when I first looked at it and planned to buy it but the salesan was a guy I know and trusted and he told me that they'd had problems with it. So I bought a S&W Shield 9mm which I didn't like and waited for the new CCP M2 to be released. I waited about four months after it was released to see if there were any complaints about it but the reviews were generally positive and there was no issues with reliablility so I jumped in. Glad I did to. It's an impressive pistol. at the asking price.
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1917-1911M said:
I don't think there is any way of knowing how many CCPs function 100% but it would sure be good if someone could identify why some do and some don't. There has got to be something that could be tracked down. These are just mechanical tools... 1917
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I'd like to think Walther/Umarex is doing exactly this. Hopefully they are and are making rolling changes to reduce parts breakages and functionality issues.

The M2 version obviously represents the biggest change but is there evidence of other small changes being made along the way?

They nailed the ergonomics on this pistol. If they can get the reliabilty and durability where it should be, they'd have a winner.
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rotorhead1026
150 more rounds through the just cleaned M2. It was necessary to tap the slide closed several times using the flat point FMJ American Eagle. Similar slugs in the Winchester brand yielded no malfunctions. There were a couple (late in the session) with Remington HTP 115g JHPs, which disappointed me. No malfunctions with Sig JHPs.

I’m going to lightly polish the feed ramp and then try again.
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Soooo....
Liking Walther and the .380 Cartridge in general I have been following the “announcement” at the recent SHOT show of the (planned?) release of a CCP M2 in .380

Is the general consensus then that whatever issues the CCP may have had were “fixed” with the release of the M2?
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