I'm Polish American. Born in Chicago. I got used to people not being able to say my name the Polish way. Unless you grew up with it, it's highly unlikely you can even form you mouth to make those sounds.So are you saying that if you meet that Armenian whose name you don’t know how to pronounce and you ask them, or they tell you, how to pronounce it, that you’re just going to make up another pronunciation and tell them they’re in ‘Murcia now so that’s not how you’re going to say it?
I get it if you have difficulty with the pronunciation due to an entirely different language, but you don’t even try to respect their name?
It’s not just names from other languages, there are a LOT of English words I don’t yet know how to pronounce. And they come from all different languages and dialects..our whole language is built off of others, that’s nothing new. When I come across a new word, I learn how to say it properly because that’s how you say it.
I don’t know, I guess it doesn’t matter to me how we pronounce Walther since it’s not an individual who I personally have met or know. But I will at least try to pronounce a person’s name correctly just like I would like them to do with me.
In immigrant families, the first generation will typically try to maintain their names unless they are in business. The kids though tend to quickly develop American nicknames.
I'm saying try as you might you will cock it up. I get trying to be respectful. Its a nice gesture. But you will fall short.
Hello Thinkokogy. That is no where near the correct pronunciation for the name Sesienski. In fact, a Polish woman would correctly go by Sesienska and not Sesienski.My Scandinavian roots make for some strange names too and my last name is just spelled phonetically in English. When my mother died my dad remarried to a Lebanese woman and she said that when her father came over, they didn’t even try to get his name right...they just dubbed him a whole new name out of the blue. The family name is essentially lost. I hate to see that.
I totally get nicknames when they know your mouth just can’t make the sound. Hi, my name is Nduhuwebfbd, but you can call me Bob. Whew, thanks, man!
I had a patient today whose last name was (and being Polish you’ll get this), “Sesienski.” I told her I knew I’d mess it up but I’d give it a try...it’s actually pronounced “Selinski.” After doing this for 25 years, I’ve come across a new name every single day...and it blows their mind when someone can pronounce theirs even close to correctly. But if I was wrong, I’d have asked her how to pronounce it and try to get it right the next time. In this case, I had actually worked with someone with that name so she was pretty impressed I knew it. But if I had never seen that name before I surely would have screwed it up on first try. I think some people get a kick out of seeing you try.
Maybe it’s because what I do for a living is on such a personal one-on-one level that I feel the need to know their names correctly. Plus, it’s fascinating to learn.
My whole diatribe was basically to say we can get too hung up on the correct foreign pronunciation thing. Enjoy the gun. Hopefully it feeds. I wouldnt worry too much about how native German natives from different parts of that country might say it.All I can do is pronounce it the way she and my buddy said it was pronounced.
I thought you might get a kick out of me agreeing with how difficult it is with names like that. You made your point of course. Mine is simply that if I have to learn a new name anyway, why not learn to say it the way they say their own name?
You’re right, there’s too many names to know. But what can you do? I’m not going to tell them how to pronounce their own name.
I love it.He had to because he could see all the perplexed RCA dog cocked heads swimming in confusion when he pronounced it correctly.
That, I think, is the definitive answer: it depends on who you're talking to.... When they tell me how they pronounce their name, that is how I pronounce it. ... When I am familiar with the language and already know how to pronounce their name, they are appreciative that I’ve done so. ...
... I usually have to mispronounce Walther just because most people can only read and pronounce it phonetically in American English.