Home Defence PPQ set up? What are you doing?

My current set-up for a night-stand gun is my Glock 34 with a Sure-fire weaponlight and new Glock 24-rd magazine. I like the long-slide/long-barrel to keep the muzzle away from the lense of the light (although, even with the 34 this is marginal). I like the extended mag so I don't have to reload. Night sights are important too.

You must have both a weapon-mounted light and a hand-held light. You shouldn't be pointing a loaded gun at an unknown target to flip on the WML to identify who it is. You also don't want to rely solely on a hand-held light, because they are not easy to shoot with, even with practice. Also, it may get dropped/knocked out of hand.

Always remember any use of lights makes your location immediately known, so using the lightswitch on the wall is often better.

PPQ45/Speedsights/HST230gr with TLR1 (300lume) is all you need. I have also used a TLR3 as it has plenty of light for indoors use. The TLR1-HL (800lume) is just too bright for indoors use for me on a handgun. I run the TLR1-HL on my SBR’s.

Mystro said:

PPQ45/Speedsights/HST230gr with TLR1 (300lume) is all you need. I have also used a TLR3 as it has plenty of light for indoors use. The TLR1-HL (800lume) is just too bright for indoors use for me on a handgun.

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Agreed - I didn't catch the HL. 200-300 lumens is plenty for indoors. 700+ lumens will cause bounce-back glare, especially if your walls are white or light-colored.

MMA10mm said:

Agreed - I didn't catch the HL. 200-300 lumens is plenty for indoors. 700+ lumens will cause bounce-back glare, especially if your walls are white or light-colored.

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I made that mistake when doing some tactical training indoors with the 800lume light. I then went home and set my alarm for 3am to see how my eyes reacted to it right out of bed and it was a disaster. When waking up your eyes are extremely light sensitive and even a TLR3 can seem overly bright. The 800lume light bouncing off the white walls was blinding. New owners test these high output lights in stores or after they have been awake for hours. It’s a different ballgame rolling out of bed in the middle of the night.

Setup tip for your bedside gun: I highly recomend everyone testing your bedside rig after a few hours sleep in the dark. See how your eyes react to your light source.

Mystro said:

I made that mistake when doing some tactical training indoors with the 800lume light. I then went home and set my alarm for 3am to see how my eyes reacted to it right out of bed and it was a disaster. When waking up your eyes are extremely light sensitive and even a TLR3 can seem overly bright. The 800lume light bouncing off the white walls was blinding. New owners test these high output lights in stores or after they have been awake for hours. It’s a different ballgame rolling out of bed in the middle of the night.

Setup tip for your bedside gun: I highly recomend everyone testing your bedside rig after a few hours sleep in the dark. See how your eyes react to your light source.

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Yep, I have a maroon wall and dark hardwood floors in my hallway (just outside the bedroom), but everything else is painted white or tan. My SF WML is 200 Lumens and is plenty bright. I've been awoken twice in the night by "situations," and my 100 lumen SF E2L handheld was pretty bright.

I have a 960 Lumen WML on my carbine, but it's meant for deployment outdoors where target confirmation and accuracy may be needed at 100-150 yards.

Another thing about nightstand guns and lights: check batteries and lubrication every 6 months when you change smoke detector batteries. Nothing worse than pressing the button and no light comes out.

I’m not paranoid, I just like to be prepared. Home Defense Weapons:

My Bedroom - CZ Scorpion 9mm SBR with TLR 4G light/Green Laser next to the bed. SIG P228 (M11-A1) night sights only under the pillow. Also have a 800 lumin flashlight on the night stand.

Wife’s Bedroom - PPQ M1 with TLR 4 light/Red Laser under the pillow. SIG P938 with Crimson Trace Laser in night stand.

Living room - Springfield 45 with TFX Pro Sights no light in the coffee table.
I believe in always having a backup.

Maybe I am a little paranoid.

Oh, and I have a 357 in the car console all the time.

Thanks everyone for the help. I will lower the light output to 300 luminous or under... no, I have never turned the light on at 3 am in the morning, great idea.( 800 does blind you)
I do practice with the rounds in my self defense pistols, I have sig 230 gr in the 45 and Sig 147 gr in the Nines... I am always impressed by the knowledge this forum has to offer. Years of wisdom here in this place.
No suppressors? Or is that over kill?

Thanks, Pete

Sprout007 said:

Thanks everyone for the help. I will lower the light output to 300 luminous or under... no, I have never turned the light on at 3 am in the morning, great idea.( 800 does blind you)
I do practice with the rounds in my self defense pistols, I have sig 230 gr in the 45 and Sig 147 gr in the Nines... I am always impressed by the knowledge this forum has to offer. Years of wisdom here in this place.
No suppressors? Or is that over kill?

Thanks, Pete

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Suppressor is a great idea, but police are going to seize it until investigation is over, and you always have to ask yourself how a prosecutor would look at it, as well as a civil court Judge/jury. (It's pretty inevitable you'll get sued, even if you are 1000% in the right.).

Can accomplish the same end result, or actually better, by wearing the amplified hearing protectors on the market. Not only protects your hearing, but also amplifies noise so you can hear the intruder better than he can hear you. And no pesky questions... (Did he really shoot in self-defense, or did he ambush him; after all he was using a silencer....)