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Anybody here shoot any of the *very* hot Hirtenberger 9mm thru their P99?
This ammo chronos at 1340fps for a 124gr. FMJ, out of a Glock 19.
In the words of the "Fabulous Thunderbirds", "thats powerful stuff".
 

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Have shot a "few" rounds of the 100gr FL +P+ JSP Hirtenberger stuff in my P99s. Shoots great and is very accurate.

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This is from a total novice but I would rather not see how hot a round I can cycle thru my P99...shoot my .45 when I want to feel the power!
 

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This stuff is great out of Glocks, especially for steel plates.
It slams the "pepper poppers" down hard, no double taps required.
Its also great for Farnams famous "rotator target".
 

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i was just about to ask about this ammo myself. was going to pick some up, but wasn't sure if it was ok for the P99.
 

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NM_P99, I think you confused the Hirtenberger with the .357 SIG


Seriously, who is selling this stuff and for how much?

I doubt anybody would "recommend" this ammo in a P99 but I would reckon that the P99 would be able to handle it at least as well as a Glock, especially considering that the pistol has a longer dwell time, and I think a heavier recoil spring?? I'm not an engineer though.

Incidentally, Tetragon (http://www.tetragon.ca/p99/pg2.html) displays a review where a P99 was successfully tested with 250,000 rounds of +P ammo. Likely not as hot as the Hirtenberger stuff but it does come as a testament to its durability.

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J&G Sales in Arizona has it.
http://www.jgsales.com/
Its $109.90 per 1000, plus shipping.
I think i'll grab 1000 rounds and try it out, if it doesn't feel right in my P99, i'll just feed it to my Glock 17.
 

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Just so you know, this stuff is not recommended for pistols, it is not like the 100gr FL +P+ which WAS designed for pistols like the P7 and Glock:

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Department of the Treasury
ATF Office of Public Information

For Immediate Release FY-97-6
Contact: Vickie Saunders Date: November 7, 1996

HAZARDOUS AMMUNITION

Washington--The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) has been
advised by Hirtenberger AG, Hirtenberg, Austria, that certain 9Xl9 mm
caliber ammunition produced by Hirtenberger is unsafe for use in any
handgun.

The ammunition, designated L7A1 and produced ln the years 1990 through
1992, was produced for the British Ministry of Defense specifically for
use in submachineguns under adverse conditions. The ammunition was loaded
to produce pressures far in excess of that intended for use in handguns.

The manufacturer advises that up to 12 million rounds of this ammunition
has recently been sold on the world surplus market. The ammunition can be
identified by the following head stamp located on the bottom of the
cartridge case

12 O'clock position: HP
3 O'clock position: 90, 91, or 92
6 O'clock position: L7Al
9 O'clock position: the marking of a cross within
a circle

This ammunition should not be fired.

We are not aware of any of this ammunition being imported into the United
States. ATF will take action to prevent the commercial importation of this
ammunition.

For additional information, contact, Mary Jo Hughes, Chief, Firearms and
Explosives Imports, (202) 927-8320.
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Thanks James, i'll just run it thru my Uzi then.
FA Uzi's are fun to own, but expensive to feed.
 
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