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Hello, sometimes we do the stupidest things... Went to the range and shot a couple hundred rounds of Thunderduds through my P22... first mistake, this makes about half a brick so far. When I got home to clean it I could not get the boresnake in the barrel.. I should have stopped there, but no, I tried to pull the boresnake on through, second mistake, and now it is really wedged in there.
It gets better, I then cut off the end of the boresnake thinking that would help, no way, third mistake. So now I have a snake stuck in my barrel and I cannot get it out.. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I noticed while shooting today that my shots were way off and I just didn't know why.. now I know it is fouling, thanks to the thunderduds... I am so frustrated. Time for dinner, thanks for reading... gus
 

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Ok, let's get the obvious out of the way first---from now on before you use the snake always run a couple of lubed patches thru first to get the barrel lubed and some of the crud out. Then lube the snake before putting it in.

Now for the current problem--

First, start soaking the part of the snake that is in the barrel with some type of liquid lube---Kroil Oil would be my suggestion since this is a penetrating oil--or CLP---it needs to be really wet! It will take awhile to get it really wet.

Now, which end of the snake did you cut off?


Is the brush part of the snake in the barrel? Hopefully, you didn't cut off the pulling end because it is going to be best not the have to reverse the direction of pull if the brush is in the barrel.

If you have the pulling end, secure it to something that won't move, grasp the pistol by the frame and pull away.

If you cut off the pulling end, then secure the loop at the end of snake to something, and change your grip on the frame and pull.

If you cut off both ends!!! Get it really soaked before you start trying to push it thru with a really good rod (Dewey for example) and be aware you most likely will cause damage to the bore.

This is how I would approach it---others may have a better solution! Proceed with caution and at your own risk. Good luck.
 

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Thanks Winterwind, and yes I did cut off the pulling end, big mistake. I have it soaking in CLP overnight. I have a friend who fixes clocks and has a ton of machine tools and is very good with figuring things out. I am planning on visiting him tomorrow. I am hoping we can push it out with a wooden dow or something else. I am sure he will get it out, it's just a pain and I hate when I do stupid things. I've put around 3000 rounds through it so far without much trouble. Once it's out i'm going to give it a good cleaning to get the lead out, any suggestions on what to use?
 

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As long as you use brass, wood, aluminum you won't hurt the barrel. It is tough. All of them are. They have to be. Don't use steel. Pictures? Yep, thunderbolts will lead up a barrel pronto. It can all be cleaned out. What are the bristles on a bore snake made of? M1911
 

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I would dismount the barrel before applying large forces to the snake. The barrel-to-frame mount isn't designed for much stress.

I'd probably dismount and see if I could twist and pull the tail end to remove. Looping the tail onto something sturdy to start seems wise.

Going forward, bore snakes are for LIGHT CLEANING, they can't remove serious fouling and they obviously don't clean the moving parts of the gun. I have bore snakes, but I only use them for very light bore cleaning jobs.



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Remove the barrel and light it on fire?
 

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+1 for Dave's suggestion to first remove the barrel; otherwise this problem could become VERY costly.

Generally speaking, the better procedure is to PULL, rather than push, the obstruction to keep it from compressing into a larger cross-section. And to pull it from the end opposite that from which it was inserted when it got stuck. However, that's not an easy option since you've cut off the pulling end. (Ah well, we all have to learn...)

Trying to pull it out from the end that's left might work better if you twist it like a tourniquet in the same direction that the wire coil is wound on the snake; this may tighten the coil and reduce the diameter slightly (similar --but opposite-- principle to applying radial pressure to a PPK recoil spring to "unwind" it slightly before trying to pull it off the barrel).

Failing that, a thin brass rod with the end sharpened into a sharp threaded point (like a "worm" formerly used to pull the ball out of a muzzle-loader) might work to get a grip on the end you've cut off and twist it to tighten the diameter of the snake.

As a last resort, a long thin twist drill centered in the bore will probably pull up enough strands of the snake to eventually collapse it. But that requires a very precise setup of the barrel in a drill press to avoid damage to the barrel.

It will eventually come out.

(You really haven't experienced a serious bore obstruction problem until you've tried to remove a rusted-in and slightly bent Morris Tube from the barrel of a Long Lee Enfield .303 rifle.)

M

PS. Do not try to burn it out. If there is any synthetic in the fabric, you'll have a molten mess in the bore.
 

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Thanks for all the suggestions. Removing the barrel was the first thing I did when this first happened. To answer M1911's question, the wire's on the bore snake are brass.

I have been keeping it loaded with CLP and hope to visit my friend today. Once I get the bore snake out any suggestions on the best way to get the lead out? I heard that 50 percent white vinegar and 50 percent hyd. peroxide was good,,,
 

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I wound insert a section of brass or aluminum cleaning rod in the muzzle or chamber end. Which ever one seemed to allow the end to fully press the entire contraption forward, support the barrel in a vise with protection and tap it through with a light hammer, lead and all. M1911
 

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Guster;282079...Once I get the bore snake out any suggestions on the best way to get the lead out? I heard that 50 percent white vinegar and 50 percent hyd. peroxide was good said:
Don't do that. The gun has suffered enough already.

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Once I get the bore snake out any suggestions on the best way to get the lead out? I heard that 50 percent white vinegar and 50 percent hyd. peroxide was good,,,
I got this from some oldtimers that shoot a lot of lead reloads through their Marlin rifles...block the ends of the barrel, "fill" or at least liberally coat with Kroil, let it sit, run a clump of SOLID copper Chore Boy through the bore a few times, repeat as necessary. Finish up with J-B Bore Compound and a light lube with your choice of oil. A Lewis Lead Remover kit would work in place of the Chore Boy but it's not available for .22, only .30 and up.
 

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Yes! It's out. I've been soaking it in CLP and I just grabed the end with needle nose plyers and it pulled right out. Now I am soaking it real good with CLP and then I will do some scrubbing with a brass brush and hopefully get that lead out.

Thanks again everyone for the comments, even the 'funny' ones!

Gus
 

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You will need to sacrifice a .22 Cal cleaning rod.

On a solid surface, like a concrete floor, pad the muzzle with a piece of 1/2" plywood, take a section of .22LR aluminum cleaning rod and a big ball pein hammer, and drive the cleaning rod towards the muzzle.

It will come out.

Do not do this again.

It is embarrassing.
 
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