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Moderator Note: This discussion combines two threads on the same subject that were running at the same time. I merged the two hoping they would make sense... Milspec :D
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I am trying to find a "hammer release" for a pre war PP (I think 1939 vintage). Numrich (gunparts) has them but they list 8 different sizes (by thickness). Any suggestions on which one might be right. The differences listed are a bit beyond my ability to measure. Thanks, Plum2020
 

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I just posted a question that may be related to this. I am looking for a hammer release for my PP and find that Numrich (gunparts) lists 8 different sizes, by thickness. A skinny one would probably wobble a bit in a gun made for a larger one. I don't know why the various sizes. Plum2020
 

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What makes you think you need a new hammer release? It's one of about three parts that I'd send my gun out to have fitted.
 

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Is the PPK hammer release suppose to wiggle around, at least up and down a little? It is the triangle on the left side of the frame when you get the slide off.
Yes, I know this question was posed in 2006, but for the benefit of those who don't know... yes, it's perfectly normal, and as designed for it to be loose.
 

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I just posted a question that may be related to this. I am looking for a hammer release for my PP and find that Numrich (gunparts) lists 8 different sizes, by thickness. A skinny one would probably wobble a bit in a gun made for a larger one. I don't know why the various sizes. Plum2020
The various sizes do not vary in thickness -- the stock width is the same for all sizes. The linear width of the part is what varies, as it determines the exact point in the travel of the safety/decocking lever that it decocks the hammer. The fact that the part "wobbles" is not a reason to swap it out. If the hammer falls when the lever is halfway across the red dot, then the hammer release is correctly sized to the gun. If not, bringing the gun to a gunsmith familiar with the PP-series is the next step. Do not swap out the part yourself unless you have an understanding of what it does, and how/why it does it.
 

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I need a new hammer release because the gun in question does not have a hammer release.
It is missing.
 

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Thank you, very informative. My problem is that my PP does not have a hammer release. Interesting that it functions without it. It has been converted (I am sure post issue) to a DAO gun. The cocking piece was milled to remove the "lip", and the hammer spring was apparrantly lightened and maybe at the same time the hammer release was removed. It is now a very smooth operating DAO PP, (not sure about the safety issues - but it does not "slam fire"), but I am putting it back in original condition, looking for an original cocking piece, and a hammer release. Plum 2020
 

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For a missing hammer release on a prewar PP I'd give Earl a call. He can fit the right size part so it's timed to work with the parts in your gun. Here's Earl's info. He'll fix you up.
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Walther Firearms and Accessories, Earl's Repair Service Inc. - Home Page
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Earl's Repair Service, Inc.
437R Chandler Street
Tewksbury, MA 01876
Phone: 978-851-2656
Fax: 978-851-9462
Hours M-F 9:30-6:30EDT
 

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I will take your advice and keep my comments on this thread rather than trying to keep up with two.
I just rechecked the Numrich parts listing for PPs. The hammer releases are definitely listed by "thickness" not linear length. I measured the thickness on one of my other guns and it corresponds with one of the offerings on the parts list. On the parts list next to each hammer release is a measurement (.05xx range) and the word "thickness".
 

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That would be a great discussion to have with Earl. You could have a definitive answer on how these are sized in the time it took to post your assumptions.
 

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Yes, I could talk to Earl. I am new to this forum, but "assumed" that one of the main purposes was to pass along potentially useful information to others who may have a similar question. Fact is that Hammer Releases are available in different "widths", this may be important to someone, it is to me. Thanks for your help. Plum2020
 

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The fact that GunParts sells their PP hammer release in multiple widths may be interesting but it doesn't mean they're drop in parts.
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Even if you pick the right width you'll need a gunsmith to fit the hammer release lever for timing. Plus you'll still need a cocking piece which along with the hammer/sear and trigger bar need to be fitted to fix your DAO problem. These really aren't user adjustable parts.
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Here's a quote from MGMike on the hammer release timing:
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...In any event, the important thing is that the hammer release lever is properly fitted and gives correct timing. Test it by cocking the hammer and slowing rotating the manual safety lever downward. The hammer should be released when the safety is covering about 1/2 the red dot.

If it's later than that, normal wear may eventually render the decocker inoperable. If it's sooner than that, it might release the hammer before the firing pin is fully locked and shielded; that's a prescription for an AD. Another good reason to point the muzzle in a safe direction when operating the safety.
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