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my first is the PPQ Q4 Tac and today i picked up the P22

question, for the most part the gun is the newer version:

Grip, Rail, except i don't have the red dot on the Safety/Fire switch

i been reading about a few common problems that keep it from making this a dang near awesome .22 and want to get those problems fixed BEFORE i even fire a round

1. Ordered the updated Coil Spring, i think for $20, it isn't much to update the older design


2. there are videos on Youtube about using a dremel on a few places:



i use my dremel for automotive stuff but don't feel safe using on a gun i just bought so if i were to take it to a local gunsmith, about how much should i expect to pay?


thanks in advance for any/all help, info, advice
 

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Don't Dremel anything. Clean it, load and shoot and then we can address any issues you might have. The new pistols come with the captive spring. Nothing to update. I find they run pretty much fine right out of the box these days. The pistol will require snappy ammo....nothing unusual there...these are blowback pistols and rely on the blowback energy to cycle the slide. Some bulk, quiet, target ammo doesn't develop much blowback energy and won't reliably cycle the slide. CCI mini mags and Rem Goldens usually run 100%. Other stuff does too, especially CCI but some Feds and Winchester are too weak.
 

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Where is MGMike when we need him.
Listen to 1917. Friends don't let friends take Dremels to Walthers.
 

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Mike didn't like the new format, said he was leaving and I guess he meant it. Welcome ykang213. I had to go meet a client earlier and just wanted to make sure you didn't go grinding on a new pistol based on something off the net. The first thing I suggest looking at on your P22 is the top, front edge of the trigger bar ears. They can indent the underside of the zinc slide. Apparently Walther is not concerned with this and the pistol has a lifetime warranty....even free shipping...as long as you don't screw something up grinding on it.

There are a lot of threads here on everything P22. Look up in the FAQ section for even more stuff. The hammer face might benefit from a very small amt of work. Be sure you understand what and why first and determine if you even have any issues. Snappy ammo corrects many issues with the P22....short barrel .22 semi autos require ammo powerful enough to cycle the slide. Let us know if you have any issues. I'd load and start shooting. Most of the stuff you read on the net is for pistols and mags that were made 12 -15 years ago. 1917
 

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Ha.....I didn't have any friends telling me I shouldn't do this. But, its not a Walther, rather a SW99 45. I have done some Walthers though. 😁

Oh, didn't use a Dremel either. I used a pneumatic die grinder with a 5/16" rotary bit.







Oh, and Olsoul is right, listen to 1911M. Any time the factory is considering any changes to the P22 they check with 1911M first.
 

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Don't Dremel anything. Clean it, load and shoot and then we can address any issues you might have. The new pistols come with the captive spring. Nothing to update. I find they run pretty much fine right out of the box these days. The pistol will require snappy ammo....nothing unusual there...these are blowback pistols and rely on the blowback energy to cycle the slide. Some bulk, quiet, target ammo doesn't develop much blowback energy and won't reliably cycle the slide. CCI mini mags and Rem Goldens usually run 100%. Other stuff does too, especially CCI but some Feds and Winchester are too weak.
Thanks for the advice...i think you are right, try it out test it BEFORE doing anything to it. i already bought the Updated coil spring as the one it came with seems way more easier to kink:

 

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Where is MGMike when we need him.
Listen to 1917. Friends don't let friends take Dremels to Walthers.
lol good advice

honestly, i don't want it to "jam" even once so i want to prevent that ever happening as i've been super pleased with my PPQ Q4 Tac.

even looking into staying within the Walther family again and grabbing a Hammerli Tac R1 .22 LR
 

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Apparently Walther is not concerned with this and the pistol has a lifetime warranty....even free shipping...as long as you don't screw something up grinding on it.

There are a lot of threads here on everything P22. Look up in the FAQ section for even more stuff. The hammer face might benefit from a very small amt of work. Be sure you understand what and why first and determine if you even have any issues. Snappy ammo corrects many issues with the P22....short barrel .22 semi autos require ammo powerful enough to cycle the slide. Let us know if you have any issues. I'd load and start shooting. Most of the stuff you read on the net is for pistols and mags that were made 12 -15 years ago. 1917
i will follow your advice

first Shoot it as is with the updated Coil Spring - going to try out about 4 different Ammo and then pick up the CCI and Rem gold like you recommended

if anything fails, i will get in touch with Walther

if after they return it, i am still having any issues, i will take it to a qualified Gunsmith
 

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Ha.....I didn't have any friends telling me I shouldn't do this. But, its not a Walther, rather a SW99 45. I have done some Walthers though. 😁

Oh, didn't use a Dremel either. I used a pneumatic die grinder with a 5/16" rotary bit.







Oh, and Olsoul is right, listen to 1911M. Any time the factory is considering any changes to the P22 they check with 1911M first.
thats some interesting work!

i'm too much of a novice to be taking stuff off an OEM gun...if its Automotive though, thats a different story :)
 

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Are you in CA? If so that explains the original recoil spring assembly. It isn't hard to reinstall the original long spring with a guide but the new one or a captive one is much easier. The captive spring came with pistols beginning in 2017, perhaps even 2016 but not for CA pistols from what I read. You can do a few simple things to the pistol but you need to fire it first and see if you have any issues. I've been shooting a 5" model with a stock hammer face for years now. Works fine. I did all kinds of mods to these pistols over the years....threads on modifying the safety drum and rear of the breech block but I'm not finding those necessary anymore. What is the date on your pistol? BI would be a 2018, BK would be a 2019, CA would be a 2020. This is not to be confused with CA for California. My 2017, BH model came with the decocker and captive spring but it is my understanding the decocker has already been dropped. California pistols don't get all the changes later pistols get. That doesn't mean you can't update. 1917



The only thing a guide rod does is hold the long spring straight and from kinking while you pull the slide rearward to remount.
 

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mine says "DE then BC" and based on reading, that would make it 2013. i was a bit concerned because it did look to have a bit if wear yet i bought a new pistol
 

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2012.....BA 2010, BB 2011, BC 2012 DE = Germany. It is entirely possible you bought a new 2012 pistol. Pull the slide off and show us the underside of the ramp where the trigger bars hit and I'll tell you if it is new. Also bottom of the breech block, the hump on the right side of the frame and the hammer face. That should do it. They haven't changed any except for the new models having a captive recoil spring and you can get one of those from Ft Smith.....You do have to drill the guide rod hole out slightly to 1/4". Very easy. 1917


Thread on installing a Walther captive recoil spring assembly in an earlier P22 slide. Q or original.
 

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They haven't changed any except for the new models having a captive recoil spring and you can get one of those from Ft Smith.....You do have to drill the guide rod hole out slightly to 1/4". Very easy. 1917


Thread on installing a Walther captive recoil spring assembly in an earlier P22 slide. Q or original.
thanks for your help

i took it shooting today and .22 + almost zero recoil is awesome!

one bullet did jam though - Remington Golden

had CCI but thet are WMR

also and those worked out nicely....based on your guys feedback, i bought CCI's and looking forward to putting some rounds through this thing!
 
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