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Walther G22

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Yeah it is a real pain in the ass to clean, but i guess all bullpup designs will probably be the same irrespective of who makes them.
Getting spares for this little rifle is another matter, I lost the extractor out of mine a while back, the pin that holds it in snapped and the extractor shot out into oblivion with the spent brass. Lots of phone calls later to different dealers I finally found one who could get said part from Walther in Germany. Three months later it has finally arrived. Bummer. Hopefully I will have it up and running again in the next few days.
Have a good weekend.
AdrianW
PS what ammo do you run in yours. I use CCI standard velocity in mine and they run fine when it was working LOL
 

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When I shot mine this past weekend, I used a variety of 22LR just to see what'd work and what wouldn't - the CCI Stingers seemed to work OK, but the to be honest I didn't notice much of a difference with any ammo - I had some FTEs, but now that I'm getting comfy with the gun, I'll pay better attention to the chamber area and give the mechanism's moving parts some more lube than I did before I went out last weekend.

LOL, I had a heck of a time getting that pin in for the extractor when I switched the gun from left to right - it was really a PITA - I think I'm gonna order another pin and extractor now, just in case - what other parts would you suggest would be good to have on hand?
 

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Walther G22

HI Buddy
I would get as many parts as you can ,especially those two tiny springs plus an extractor, ejector plate, firing pin, and any of the little roll pins that hold some of the parts together. Since this rifle has been discontinued it is a real bugger to get parts. I hope you have better luck getting parts in the US, than I have in the UK.

Put my rifle back together Monday evening cycled the action and the bloody thing would not cock, took it apart again and on further investigation found that the pin that holds the hammer strut to the hammer was broken. When I finally get it sorted I will let you ,if it shoots like it did. I love shooting this little rifle, nearly as much as I like shooting my lever action rifles.
AdrianW
 

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I took the G22 to the range today, gave it plenty of CLP, and found out that it didn't like Remington Thunderbolt (40 grain, lead round nose bullet, 1255 FPS) at all - most of the problems with these rounds were failure to eject completely - every third round or so. BUT, the gun loved the CCI Stingers (32 grain, copper plated hollow point bullet, 1640 FPS) - the Stingers ran 100% - not even a single jam!

With all the CPL I used, now I gotta clean the gun, but I am glad that I found out that it it runs so reliabibly with the Stingers.
 

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Revisiting G22 issues

CCI Stinger reliability is actually really depends from gun to gun. Mine hates them!

What I have found during my 1 year G22 experience:
- do not have to clean mechanics for 500rnds
- Can not use any hard cleaning tools inside the bolt ramp
- Use dry lubricant or use as less oil as possible
- Extractor front side polishing is a must
- Bolt rails polishing is a must. Bolt top should be polished to be as smooth as possible or it scratches be aluminum box top, therefore with time moves badly in those self dug scratch rails
- Bolt catcher simply destroys the aluminum frame so better get rig of this feature
- Mag safety spring (nr.52 on scheme) can be replaced with spark stone spring from the BIC lighter. 5 rounds cut is enough. But you need to find as small diameter spring as possible or mag safety wont function and therefore with badly mounted mag, you will experience jams and double fed rounds
- The shell ammo case rail in front of the mag should be polished.
- Bolt return springs are crap! Replace them with the aftermarket ones if possible
- polish the bolt spring rods and you will have less feeding issues cause less friction on bolt return
 

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I know this is an old thread ive owned a g22 for 5+ years its had a lot of use and nothing has gone wrong with mine it seems most problems arise from incorrect assembly ive fixed a few and that's the most common problem ive seen I run mine with a little bit of dry lube and that's it I use cci standard vel ammo in mine and never had a problem the trigger is quite mushy from factory I fixed that and the other thing I do is bend a 22cal mop at one end in a L shape so you can fit it in through the ejection port and clean the chamber and that seems to keep mine running its the most accurate semi ive owned
 

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What springs am I removing?
The little coil spring in the front and the V shaped flat spring in the rear on the right side of the receiver. To prevent loss put a quarter size neodymium magnet on top of receiver to catch them when you separate the upper from the lower receiver halves.
 

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Revisiting G22 issues

CCI Stinger reliability is actually really depends from gun to gun. Mine hates them!

What I have found during my 1 year G22 experience:
  • do not have to clean mechanics for 500rnds
  • Can not use any hard cleaning tools inside the bolt ramp
  • Use dry lubricant or use as less oil as possible
  • Extractor front side polishing is a must
  • Bolt rails polishing is a must. Bolt top should be polished to be as smooth as possible or it scratches be aluminum box top, therefore with time moves badly in those self dug scratch rails
  • Bolt catcher simply destroys the aluminum frame so better get rig of this feature
  • Mag safety spring (nr.52 on scheme) can be replaced with spark stone spring from the BIC lighter. 5 rounds cut is enough. But you need to find as small diameter spring as possible or mag safety wont function and therefore with badly mounted mag, you will experience jams and double fed rounds
  • The shell ammo case rail in front of the mag should be polished.
  • Bolt return springs are crap! Replace them with the aftermarket ones if possible
  • polish the bolt spring rods and you will have less feeding issues cause less friction on bolt return
 

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You list several things to do with the G22. Could you elaborate on the polishing and maybe a source for the guide rail springs?
 

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Here is my experience with my G22 which I was about ready to turn into a fence post. I took the advice of one of the suggestions on this forum and took mine apart and polished anything that moved. I polished the feed ramp to a mirror shine and inside the receiver where the bolt glides. All in all I spent about 4 hours cleaning and polishing. I took it out to the range for a function test and It wouldn't feed or eject. I was absolutely ticked off at the time wasted trying to get this little beast to run. I took it back to the bench and what I was noticing when trying to cycle live ammo was the bullet getting shaved from the barrel. Ok. So I took my dremel grinder with the steepest cone and throated the barrel ever so slightly and polished it. Kinda like you do to a .45 barrel for feeding wadcutters. I also adjusted the magazines to strip pretty much horizontal instead of tipping up. Finally I did some preventative work on the receiver where those darn little springs live that everyone loses. I took superglue and glued the spring into its hole in the receiver. It won't fall out now. On the magazine safety spring, I set it in place and glued it into place as well. Now I don't have to worry about the springs. Back to the cause of the no feed no eject issue. Well dumb me had put the ejector in upside down where the ejector was forward instead of the rear. So I flipped over and put it back into its proper orientation. One last thing I did was take some hvac foil tape and cut off some small pieces and taped the ejector down so it wouldn't fall out when you pull the receiver apart and also taped on both pin hole locations to keep the receiver pins in place. Well the moment of truth came this afternoon. I grabbed 4 boxes of ammo cheap thunderbolts, federal hi-speed, cci std velocity, and sellier & belloit std velocity. I loaded 5rds of each. After the first pull of the trigger I was expecting a stovepipe jam. It didn't happen, it fed and ejected. I spent the magazine and all went well. So I loaded up 5rds of each of the other flavors and the little G22 went from beast to alot of fun. My final magazine I loaded 10rds and tried a rapid fire run. I fired as fast as I could and it didn't miss a beat. I think I am finally going to like this little rifle. One last thing and its about oil. I oiled the bolt with a small amount of Rem Oil. The rest of the bearing surfaces I used dry silicone. Surprisingly the cleanup was very easy I didn't have nearly as much fouling to clean as when I used Rem OIl or other oils I have around. I have been frustrated for over a year trying to get this thing to run. Well I finally think its fixed. Consumer tip for the springs. I measured my original spring (which I lost afterwards) and ordered 10 from a company I found on Amazon for like $3 for 10. They are stronger than the original and I expect will launch like a rocket if it gets loose. The magazine safety spring I attempted to make one out of some wire spring material I had laying around. I discovered I'm not that good at bending wire. So that is the reason I glued the spring into place. I doesnt' really do any hard work and by gluing it in place it actually works better. If anyone wants to buy a spring that is the correct length and diameter and has a little more strength, let me know and I will dig up my Amazon order and give you the part number I ordered. Tip when you take your receiver apart get some blue masking tape and cover magazine safety and magazine catch. Also I keep a big magnet nearby.
 
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