I had been looking at these for sometime now and after yesterdays shooting, I really liked it. Had some friends over and one had a LNIB Walther P5 that he let me shoot. It was his dads and I bet did not have more than 100rnd thru it. We shot revolvers, Steyr M9, Glock G30, AK47s, Various .22's and a Sig 226. Fun day.