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Thanks, for your comments. Actually, it's not reassembled, but rather placed on the spring guide and positioned under the barrel against the barrel's lug (?), or whatever you call it. However, thanks to Tanfo's assembly of the P22 (which I also have) that I watched I was able to put it back together. Little hard to hold the spring down over the guide with my "old" hands, but with a pair of gloves, believe it or not, I was able to do it. Again, thanks, for your comments.
Spring guide? What gun are we talking about?
 

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Looks like just a little model mixing here. He's working on a P22, probably unaware that this particular thread is relating to the very different PP series.
 

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Looks like just a little model mixing here. He's working on a P22, probably unaware that this particular thread is relating to the very different PP series.
Correct. The PP series of Walther (PP, PPK, PPK/S) are the ones we are concerned with here. We don't care about the plastic models in this forum here at all. We are dealing with classics here. Not plastics.
 

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Looks like just a little model mixing here. He's working on a P22, probably unaware that this particular thread is relating to the very different PP series.
That realization struck after reading his last post.

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...We don't care about the plastic models in this forum here at all. We are dealing with classics here. Not plastics.
Well, at least not in this thread; and I'd bet you'd take issue with my .380 S&Walther ppk/s qualifying as a classic either :D.

Plenty of love for the plastics. Take a look here Fitz: P22 - WaltherForums
 

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Well, at least not in this thread; and I'd bet you'd take issue with my .380 S&Walther ppk/s qualifying as a classic either :D.

Plenty of love for the plastics. Take a look here Fitz: P22 - WaltherForums
Noted.

I like steel whether stainless or blued in all of my handguns so I am biased. It is heavier and requires a bit more maintenance than plastic but I feel like I've got a real handgun since WWI or 1873:







You can see the circle of handguns I like in the first photo.
In the second it's a WWI type .45 ACP Colt
In the last it's a Frontier (COLT) Six Shooter in .44-40.

In the Walther series my favorites have been all steel and blue or stainless:

Blue:


Stainless:
 

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For me the .380 in a PPK or PPK/S did not work. I've never had a .380 in PP and think perhaps I should try that out but the recoil spring is heavier in the .380 and if you have to clear a jam your .380 round can be caught in the ramp (whether Houlton revised or original) to require a third hand to clear it.

If you use two hands to clear a jammed .380 on the ramp feeding into the chamber with other rounds behind it to follow through and have to work that recoil spring then you are out of business. You have to point that gun away from anyone or yourself while trying to clear it with two hands.

Watch the muzzle of your weapon at all times even when trying to clear it.
 

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One more little "nice to see" is that the German example shows signs on many of the parts as having been Rockwell tested. Reassuring. ...can't say the same of the "Made in USA" examples we have here.

QC apparently went to "represented sampling" as opposed to true Quality Assurance.
 

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One more little "nice to see" is that the German example shows signs on many of the parts as having been Rockwell tested. Reassuring. ...can't say the same of the "Made in USA" examples we have here.

QC apparently went to "represented sampling" as opposed to true Quality Assurance.
Where did you find this information in regards to the sampling of just some of the parts for their Rockwell hardness at S&W?
 

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'shooter, I didn't specify S&W!

The Interarms .380's I have here do not show evidence of Rockwell hardness testing. My Ulm weapon is "littered" with 'em.

Do the S&W examples have the test evidence?
 

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'shooter, I didn't specify S&W!

The Interarms .380's I have here do not show evidence of Rockwell hardness testing. My Ulm weapon is "littered" with 'em.

Do the S&W examples have the test evidence?
I admit until you posted about this item I really had not looked for them. In my past work I had a lot of heat treating that I had to be involved with.
I remember back in 1956 in HS shop I made this hammer head and we heat treated it and we tested on Rockwell hardness machine, remember picking the ball size needed for the C scale.:rolleyes:
 

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hehee.

I grew up in the steel industry, third-gen Mill Rat: Q.C. NDT Level-II.

It struck me that the Interarms models I have do not show evidence the Ulm version does, of being rigorously monitored.
 

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hehee.

I grew up in the steel industry, third-gen Mill Rat: Q.C. NDT Level-II.

It struck me that the Interarms models I have do not show evidence the Ulm version does, of being rigorously monitored.
I guess if someone was really worried they could find a local inspection shop many are in Cities where aircraft parts are being Mfg.ed and have them test all the firearms parts.:rolleyes:
 
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