Hi - I've used a Dermagrip (from 'that guy'). Put one-size-smaller backstrap on with it. Very secure. Would have lasted forever had I not soaked the frame with G96 - this made the grip fall off. Other cleaners, like Shooters Choice, did not have this effect. I mostly used rubbing alcohol to clean the grip.[b said:Quote[/b] (ay329 @ Dec. 24 2004,9:31)]I noticed that the German guy, who we have all been warned to not buy anything from, has the Derma Grip. Have any of you had any experience with this product and is it recommended?