[artyldr01]

I stumbled on an East German 1001 "PP" today. I'm very excited about it as it is my first DDR gun, and I love the PP. Sadly, it was in Pachemyr grips, but I replaced them with grips of unknown origin. It looks very nice with my Bavarian Police Manurhin that started me down the "PP Rabbit hole." It also had a Manurhin mag but original holster as well. Eventually, I'll find the correct grips for both.

I snagged a little Ortgies 6.35mm (25ACP) with it as well.

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[Dieter H. Marschall]

The grips without the "Walther banner" are correct.
This is what I wrote about those "Pistole 1001" in my book "Walther Pistols" (available via Legacy Collectibles"):
"Some “Pistole 1001” have the stamp “Hämmerli Tiengen” inside. In September 1985 the Swiss company Hämmerli purchased 3000 “Pistole 1001” via an Austrian trading company. These pistols were inspected by Hämmerli, stamped and then sold on the commercial market."
Dieter H. Marschall.

 

[artyldr01]

The grips without the "Walther banner" are correct.
This is what I wrote about those "Pistole 1001" in my book "Walther Pistols" (available via Legacy Collectibles"):
"Some “Pistole 1001” have the stamp “Hämmerli Tiengen” inside. In September 1985 the Swiss company Hämmerli purchased 3000 “Pistole 1001” via an Austrian trading company. These pistols were inspected by Hämmerli, stamped and then sold on the commercial market."
Dieter H. Marschall.

Thank you very much, Sir, and I have your book, a cherished resource!

My friend micrometered the slide against my Manurhin, and it is incrementally thinner, and you can see marks where they ground markigs off to put theirs on. There is a visible, mild, color anomalies but also the cocking serations are "flattened." I definitely think it and the ortgies were worth my trade!

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[Andyd_is_PzGren]

East Germany had manufactured several different guns and parts with the 1001 designation, they also made 1001 marked magazines for the Parabellum pistol at Haenel and parts for the gun. They even made a few complete Parabellum 08 pistols.

Hammerli, Tiengen is the German company that mostly imported firearms, like the PP -1001, SIG P210s, Swiss Hammerlis, and Taurus revolvers into Germany, putting their name onto the gun was to comply with marking requirements.

 

[artyldr01]

East Germany had manufactured several different guns and parts with the 1001 designation, they also made 1001 marked magazines for the Parabellum pistol at Haenel and parts for the gun. They even made a few complete Parabellum 08 pistols.

Hammerli, Tiengen is the German company that mostly imported firearms, like the PP -1001, SIG P210s, Swiss Hammerlis, and Taurus revolvers into Germany, putting their name onto the gun was to comply with marking requirements.

Thank you for the education!

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[DaveB]

Nice find!!!!!

 

[Balogh]

It's interesting to note that although the GDR gun makers opted for the simplified design around the trigger guard, they obviously preferred the PP's original frame design with the short tang.

 

[Martin]

It is a pity that the weapon was coughed on the left of the slide by the unfortunately very nonsensical labels 'ac' and 'Zella-Mehlis Germany'.
AC was Walther's marking in WW II and the weapon was not made in ZM but in Suhl.

 

[Balogh]

As I was able to find out on the internet, the misleading designations 'ac' and 'Zella-Mehlis Germany' are found on the 1001-0 models imported by G.P. Trading and Century Arms International (both then based in St. Albans, Vermont - were they somehow connected?). Some reports say that this was to increase sales opportunities. I dare to doubt that, because anyone familiar with the German wartime marking 'ac' will probably also know that the 1001-0 models didn't originate from Walther's wartime production. I wouldn't be surprised if the designations 'ac' and 'Zella-Mehlis Germany' were simply chosen because the importers didn't know any better but had to stamp the origin. Other American importers marked the same type of guns with the designation 'PP' on the frame.

 

[Andyd_is_PzGren]

As Balogh wrote, U.S. importers have to mark the guns to conform with ATF rules. Importer name, city and state, country of origin, caliber, model (if designated), serial number on frame and manufacturer have to be engraved or stamped with a minimum height of 0.0625" and 0.0762' depth. Why they chose AC and ZM is probably because it was a manufacturer that they found in the ATF database when they applied for the Form 6 and they did it out of convenience and avoiding a conditional import and sending a sample to ATF for inspection.