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Date of Manufacture 4 PP & PPKS

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I have two Walthers supposedly from the Interarms Vault when that company closed. Both 22lr with box, mag etc.. Neither have date stamps inside the ejection ports typical of these guns. Any thoughts about that?:confused:
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...Neither have date stamps inside the ejection ports typical of these guns. Any thoughts about that?...
Yes.

Is that the only place you looked?

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Thanks everyone for the responses. The serial # for the PP is 46462LR. For the PPK/S 133171S. Each has 3 Eagle/N proofs: one on the barrel about 1 to 2 inches back from the muzzle and not visible through the ejection port, one on the slide and one on the frame. The one on the frame has other symbols with it that I don't recognize (see photo). The guns were disassembled and no other markings/dates found. Any ideas? Thanks much.

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The HI stands for 1978, so there's your year for that one.
That's Eagle over N (nitro proof, i.e. test-fired), in 1978, and the Ulm proofing house antlers.
Any idea why these are done differently than what I assume is the more common dating inside the ejection port with an actual year number? Thanks.
It's not a common vs. uncommon, just at one time they did it like that (ejection port) and then they did it like that (frame). Mine looks exactly like yours.
Any idea why these are done differently than what I assume is the more common dating inside the ejection port with an actual year number?
It is really a question how we determine "common". The dating near the trigger took place during 22 years from 1977 to 1999. The earlier way of dating can be noticed between 1961 and 1977 thus only 16 years. If we look at the production figures, we come to a different conclusion of course.

By the way, Walther switched to the letter coding in 1977. The change of the marking position was done in the same year but a little bit later. So the year code HH can appear on either position on the frame on different pistols.
The year coding system was likely initiated not by Walther but by the Ulm Proof House, for whatever reason made sense to them.

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The German law (Beschussverordnung zum Beschussgesetz) allows both the coding with numbers or letters. The latter variant must be applied for by the manufacturer.

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