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Bavarian Police PP 7.65 at LGS

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I found a Bavarian Police PP at my local gun store and wanted to share with the forum. It has no import marks that I could see but it does have the LP By mark (crossed out) on the left hand side which I believe marks it as a Bavarian Police pistol (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I've been wanting a PP for some time, but don't know if this one is worth it. They are asking $799 but I may be able to talk them down.

Any help is appreciated!

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I would say that 799 is at least couple hundred too steep for that condition.

The flush magazine bottom is odd. I don't usually see those without the finger extensions.

The other oddity is what I don't see in the ejection port: the proof. Attached a picture from my files of another 1961 LPBy PP in the general serial vicinity.

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There appears to be a proof mark in the ejection port. See this close up.

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They are asking insane prices on Gun Broker for 32 PP pistols, but they aren't getting any bids.

There are 2 two PP 32s at a bit over $200 and these have many bids. 7 days left in auctions.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/801119553

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/800663816
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AllenArmory said:
There appears to be a proof mark in the ejection port. See this close up.
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Yes, I saw that, that’s the nitro proof mark, but the Ulm antler and year should normally be there. It might indicate a replacement barrel. That would be nothing bad as such, of course.
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Absalom said:
It might indicate a replacement barrel.
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The sign of the Ulm proof house and the two-digit date code as part of the proof were introduced in 1961. Early models of that year still feature the nitro proof sign only. So there is nothing wrong with the proof of this former service pistol.

By the way, the proof we can see through the ejection port is actually stamped on the frame. It isn't the barrel. This has its own proof usually near the muzzle.
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So this was made in 1961 or before?
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It was manufactured in 1961. Walther switched to the 6-digit serial range (starting with 3xxxxx) on PP models in 1961.
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Balogh said:
Absalom said:
It might indicate a replacement barrel.
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The sign of the Ulm proof house and the two-digit date code as part of the proof were introduced in 1961. Early models of that year still feature the nitro proof sign only..
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Thanks! Learned something. That 1961 example I pictured is the earliest specimen of an Ulm-stamped PP I have in my picture files. One should be careful with conclusions based on one data point 🙂
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