Doesn't the name and web site mall ninja/comic book pictures give you a clue. How about no police or federal agency use them.If they were so great you would think they would be first in line. Shooting clay is back yard testing from 1970's. SAVE your money. If you want to try a HP for SD their are many good ones My self my PPK/S and Mustang both like CorBon 90gr HP.