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What do you mean, nobody's asked these questions? The PP section here is full of these exact questions.
 

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What do you mean, nobody's asked these questions? The PP section here is full of these exact questions.
Nobody asked these questions on the latest Facebook post yet. But they have been asked countless times in previous posts of course.
 

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This just reinforces why I cancelled my "fakebook" account over a decade ago, and NEVER looked back.
 
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How can anybody not want “the cleanest and most expertly machined version of the PPK and PPK/s Model to date”? Glad to hear that Umarex was able to improve on the quality of those ZM, Ulm, and IA/Ranger pistols.
 

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I just slammed them (in the comments) on their flippant denial of .32/7.65 as possibility.

I could be convinced that modern manufacturing technology has made this one of the most consistent, well-made PP series guns yet. But they're just ignoring their consumers if they dismiss .32.
 

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I just slammed them (in the comments) on their flippant denial of .32/7.65 as possibility.

... But they're just ignoring their consumers if they dismiss .32.
I suspect the number of consumers they’re ignoring is insufficiently large to overcome the economies of scale to favor producing in another caliber.

The .32 is preferred by historical fans, nostalgians, and plinkers, but people who buy this because they actually need a gun have always trended toward the .380.

That’s why most of the Interarms-era PP-series guns were .380. Back when the first German police surplus .32 PP’s started coming in, quite a few were actually converted to .380.

While that nonsense has stopped and folks are buying the .32 PP’s as collectibles, I doubt a new .32 could pay for itself.
 

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I think there are more than just a few reasons NOT to build one .32 even though I would consider one. Beyond the long term PPK fan base, how many folks out there want a relatively heavy blow back .32? Seems to be a lot of opinions on what is the better/best/minimum caliber for self defense. Don’t remember .32 being high on the list. Even though it worked quite well in Bond movies especially with a suppressor. Anybody priced out .32 rounds lately? Not sure I’d want to spend a lot of time at the range shooting at paper. How many of the current PPK purists would buy it considering the comments about the S&W and now Walther use of the extended tang.
 

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Anybody priced out .32 rounds lately? Not sure I’d want to spend a lot of time at the range shooting at paper.
.32 ACP is one of the most common cartridges that I shoot. It looks like I won't get to buy a Ft.Smith PPK now.
 

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The .32 is an odd bird; it is more the province of enthusiasts than for serious use. I'd like to see them introduce it...the tooling really shouldn't be that expensive, and it shares common centers with the .380.
We shall see.
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With most guns, seeing .380 as the minimum makes sense, I guess. But I tend to think PPK fans see more merit with .32/7.65 than most gun buyers. And not just because of Bond--I've been seeing stuff to the effect of this (https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/32-acp-is-pretty-good-too/) for years. And I get the sense PPK fans know enough about the gun to know that 7.65 is (more or less) the original, and probably better suited to the design.

So, Walther gives us a new PPK in .380, and says "no .32"... blindly assuming PPK consumers will see it like all other .380s.

Long story short: I think there's a bigger market for a 7.65 PPK than Walther thinks there is. At least that's my hypothesis.
 

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Gentleman's wager:
I'm putting my money on Walther pulling in a very quickly sold, high sales volume / low production ppk targeted at a specific demographic ("enthusiasts"/"collectors") and for a very respectable profit margin with a
"Limited Edition" release in .32 / 7.65
This would do 2 things for Walther. (In no particular order)
1. Sold Out = %$$$$$$$$$$>.380
2. Another "collectable" to add to their legends repertoire
 
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Gentleman's wager:
I'm putting my money on Walther pulling in a very quickly sold, high sales volume / low production ppk targeted at a specific demographic ("enthusiasts"/"collectors") and for a very respectable profit margin with a
"Limited Edition" release in .32 / 7.65
This would do 2 things for Walther. (In no particular order)
1. Sold Out = %$$$$$$$$$$>.380
2. Another "collectable" to add to their legends repertoire
I could see that. Start the .32 as a limited edition... test the waters. And it would definitely fit with their Legends line.

On the other hand, if they invest in tooling, design, regulatory BS to get a new gun out there... you'd think they'd want to sell as many as they could.

On the other, other hand... it's not like there's any mystery on how to make a 7.65 PPK. I guess it wouldn't require a major investment in R&D, etc. But who knows.
 

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I could see that. Start the .32 as a limited edition... test the waters. And it would definitely fit with their Legends line.

On the other hand, if they invest in tooling, design, regulatory BS to get a new gun out there... you'd think they'd want to sell as many as they could.

On the other, other hand... it's not like there's any mystery on how to make a 7.65 PPK. I guess it wouldn't require a major investment in R&D, etc. But who knows.
Like all firearms manufacturers, they have to do the calculatiom on what it would cost to produce it vs some prognostication of how many they think they could sell and for how much.

If you look at number of rounds and reloading components sold, I wonder where .32acp winds up?

I hope Walther produces it but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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If you look at number of rounds and reloading components sold, I wonder where .32acp winds up?
Still, people don't buy rounds for guns they don't have. Putting a crop of .32 PPKs out there may influence the sale of .32, more so than .32 will influence the sale of PPKs.

I think they need to run some focus groups so they have some real insights about what their consumers want.
 

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Still, people don't buy rounds for guns they don't have. Putting a crop of .32 PPKs out there may influence the sale of .32, more so than .32 will influence the sale of PPKs.

I think they need to run some focus groups so they have some real insights about what their consumers want.
True. Chicken and egg to some extent.
 

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.32 ACP is a good cartridge.
With the optimal ratio of properties and dimensions.
Significantly more efficient than .25 and providing more reliable automation and mag capacity than .22.
But their unreasonably high price spoils everything.
I am not a supporter of any conspiracy theories, but it seems that this cartridge was intentionally discredited by a gang of monopolists smalarms production.
Firstly, to oust from the market a huge number of pistols for this cartridge produced in the first half of the 20th century.
Secondly, to reduce production costs, due to the narrowing of the lineup.

Instead, everyone competes "Who is cutting the next Glock, which is not like Glock." And strive to foist useless crap for .22WMR or 5,7...

This is a real scam.
 
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