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A few questions re: the PPS vs the Kahr PM9/P9

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New to the forum and I have a few questions. I was all set to buy a Kahr P9 or PM9 when two things happened:

1. I was at a gun show and kept seeing the P22 (or whatever Walther calls it). I kept saying to myself, "why don't they make this in a 9mm"? Next thing you know I am standing at a table holding a PPS in my hand. Loved it. A bit heavier than the Kahr guns and a bit wider I believe, but I really liked the gun.

2. I was in a local gun store talking to one of the sales people. So far, all gun shop employees annoy me, too opinionated, not enough facts. This salesman explained that the Kahr is basically steel sliding on plastic (the slide on the frame) and will wear out in 9k rounds, etc. He took one apart and showed me - sure enough, there already seemed to be a lot of wear on just the display model. He took apart a Glock 26 and showed me how the Glock has installed steel rails so the steel frame is sliding on steel rails attached to a plastic frame.

My questions:

1. Does the PPS have the steel rails like the Glock or is it steel on plastic like the Kahr?

2. Does it matter?

Finally, there was someone on this forum talking about a PPS for $500 and that he could get them at that price for "anyone." If I decide on the PPS I am interested in the all black. What is the best price I can find it for, and where? Could someone provide contact info so I can call and order the thing? Preferably from someone listed in the phonebook or information. No offense, but I don't want to risk my hard earned money with someone I don't know and can't verify third party.

Your help is much appreciated.
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Finally, there was someone on this forum talking about a PPS for $500 and that he could get them at that price for "anyone." If I decide on the PPS I am interested in the all black. What is the best price I can find it for, and where? Could someone provide contact info so I can call and order the thing? Preferably from someone listed in the phonebook or information. No offense, but I don't want to risk my hard earned money with someone I don't know and can't verify third party.

Your help is much appreciated.
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Can't answer about the rails. I've handled a few of the plastic Kahrs and they just don't do anything for me. Tried to talk myself into a CW40 buy just couldn't do it.

As for the prices; This is an interesting time in the product release cycle. The First Edition guns have just about disappeared, and the first black ones are just trickling to market. Due to this the prices have gone up a bunch in the last month or so. Where I was seeing prices of $550 or so on GB, they're now much higher due to lack of supply. Dealers are raising prices on guns they don't even have in stock. This is a long way of saying, whoever was offering them for $500 even a few weeks ago probably cannot get them for that price today. No harm, no foul, things change.

If I'm wrong please let me know. I might consider a 9mm today instead of a .40S&W "sometime" later this year...

Lastly, in my gut I suspect the distribution channels will open up after the SHOT show, which starts this weekend (2/1). At least I hope that's what's holding things up. I really, really hope that Walther and S&W aren't having "turf wars", with S&W intentionally being slow to market so they can introduce their own "slim" pistol.

-- Sam
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