[BinhThuyUSN]

Recently at the range I encountered a problem with my PPK/S 22lr using CCI Blazer 22lr ammo. I was participating in a 30 round pistol shoot and was using my PPK/S and I loaded up a magazine with 6 rounds of the CCI Blazer ammo. I proceeded to start shooting and after the first shot went off, but I could not shoot the next round because the slide did not come back far enough to eject the empty shell casing. I dropped the magazine, cleared the chamber and reinserted the magazine, that round fired and again the slide did not come back far enough to extract the empty cartridge. I left the range, went home and picked up the following AMMO brands to see if I could duplicate the problem. Boy was I surprised when I took the following Ammo Brands, the CCI Blazer, CCI Mini Mag, CCI Standard Velocity, Aquila Super Extra HV, Geco Rifle LR, Norma Tac 22, to a local indoor shooting range. Every brand of ammo except the CCI Std Vel duplicated the problem originally encountered with the CCI Blazer 22lr ammo. Has anyone else experienced the same problem I had over the weekend?

 

[Dweis]

I am guessing that you have an out of tolerance recoil spring that has too much tension. Maybe a call ton Walther will get you a free new one. I imagine that if what you experienced was commonplace if would be commonly known here. Months ago. I did a lot of forum reading about The PPK/s while considering the purchase of one. I do not recall seeing any reports similar you yours. Of course do not have the expertise rely upon, and my hypothesis. Is just based upon mechanical logic.

 

[Balogh]

Recently at the range I encountered a problem with my PPK/S 22lr using CCI Blazer 22lr ammo.

Be sure to specify the exact type of your gun. Your PPK/S 22lr could be either a PPK/S in .22lr or a PPK/S .22. They are completely different guns. The first one is a vintage gun made more than 30 years ago by Manurhin/Walther and the second one is a contemporary gun made by Walther/Umarex.

 

[Wildtoad]

Yes, very different guns. I have the 2013 PPK/S 22 from Umarex and it is very picky with ammo, gets even pickier as it get fouled from spent powder.
If this is the gun you have, it will take quite a number of rounds to break the thing in.
In either case, I’d remove the recoil spring and put it back together and rack the slide back and forth and see if goes all the way smoothly.

 

[jkv45]

40gr MiniMags tend to be the go-to for picky .22s.

Make sure there isn't any build-up in the chamber, and the pistol is clean and lubed well, then see how many MiniMags you can fire without a functioning issue.

Never cared for Blazer.

 

[BinhThuyUSN]

Be sure to specify the exact type of your gun. Your PPK/S 22lr could be either a PPK/S in .22lr or a PPK/S .22. They are completely different guns. The first one is a vintage gun made more then 30 years ago by Manurhin/Walther and the second one is a contemporary gun made by Walther/Umarex.

Thank you for the reply and my firearm is a Carl Walther ULM/DO, Model PPL/S Cal 22lr, Made In Germany, Fort Smith, AR

 

[BinhThuyUSN]

Thank you all for your replies and I will take all the suggestions into condsideration. Based some videos that I have seen on line after posting the OP. It has made me aware that I have to be extremely careful when handling this firearm. Again thank you all for the suggestions and info.

 

[BinhThuyUSN]

Update on the original and other posts. I have emailed WaltherUSA and as of this post have not heard back from them about my FTE (failure to eject) and FTC (Failure to cycle) with certain brands of ammunition.

 

[Dweis]

Update on the original and other posts. I have emailed WaltherUSA and as of this post have not heard back from them about my FTE (failure to eject) and FTC (Failure to cycle) with certain brands of ammunition.

i suspect you might not hear back because you effectively tools the that “certain brands of ammunition“ were employed when the failures occurred. They might see it a an ammo problem, which it might be. 22 LR pis told have a history of being ammo finicky.

 

[BinhThuyUSN]

An update from BinhThuyUSN concerning my original post on my Walther PPK/S 22lr pistol's failure to eject and failure to cycle problem. This past week I received an email from WaltherUSA on how to send my pistol back to them for possible repair. I am pleased that they are willing to look at the firearm and assess if there is a problem.

 

[Wildtoad]

I’ve had to send my PPK/S 22 back to Walther for two out of battery blowups. Both times they fixed it for free including shipping. The second time I also pointed out the the serrations near the safety were wearing and the replaced the whole slide. Great service.

 

[BinhThuyUSN]

I’ve had to send my PPK/S 22 back to Walther for two out of battery blowups. Both times they fixed it for free including shipping. The second time I also pointed out the the serrations near the safety were wearing and the replaced the whole slide. Great service.

Interesting post, what are "out of battery blowups"?

 

[Wildtoad]

When the round is not fully seated in the chamber when it goes off and the casing blows. In my case the extractor, spring blow out the gun and needed to be replaced.

 

[LoftonHarris]

I was told from the beginning to use CCI Mini Mags, 40 grain copper plated ammunition. After more than 1000 rounds I have had no problems. Hollow points are a known problem. I have not tried Blazers or anything other than Mini Mags. I’d suggest staying away from anything else. I have a 65 year old PP in .32 caliber and had one Ftl using the original magazine which was a bit crunchy. My new magazine has worked flawlessly. Your problem is either with the ammo or your magazine. Try the CCI mini mags and if that doesn’t do the trick get some new name brand magazines.

 

[skchen83]

I didn't see anyone discuss the possibility of limp-wristing. I know it's less of an issue with .22lr than center-fire, but given all the different ammo types tried, there's only 2 common variables. Shooter and gun......

 

[AzShooter1]

I was told from the beginning to use CCI Mini Mags, 40 grain copper plated ammunition. After more than 1000 rounds I have had no problems. Hollow points are a known problem. I have not tried Blazers or anything other than Mini Mags. I’d suggest staying away from anything else. I have a 65 year old PP in .32 caliber and had one Ftl using the original magazine which was a bit crunchy. My new magazine has worked flawlessly. Your problem is either with the ammo or your magazine. Try the CCI mini mags and if that doesn’t do the trick get some new name brand magazines.

Blazers are basically 40 grain Mini Mags without the coating. They shoot equally well out of my guns. With the ammo shortage you shoot what you can find. I've found Blazer, Mini Mags and SV from the CCIammunition.com website. I mix and match my orders so I can get
$100 in merchandise and get free shipping.

 

[gent21]

Recently at the range I encountered a problem with my PPK/S 22lr using CCI Blazer 22lr ammo. I was participating in a 30 round pistol shoot and was using my PPK/S and I loaded up a magazine with 6 rounds of the CCI Blazer ammo. I proceeded to start shooting and after the first shot went off, but I could not shoot the next round because the slide did not come back far enough to eject the empty shell casing. I dropped the magazine, cleared the chamber and reinserted the magazine, that round fired and again the slide did not come back far enough to extract the empty cartridge. I left the range, went home and picked up the following AMMO brands to see if I could duplicate the problem. Boy was I surprised when I took the following Ammo Brands, the CCI Blazer, CCI Mini Mag, CCI Standard Velocity, Aquila Super Extra HV, Geco Rifle LR, Norma Tac 22, to a local indoor shooting range. Every brand of ammo except the CCI Std Vel duplicated the problem originally encountered with the CCI Blazer 22lr ammo. Has anyone else experienced the same problem I had over the weekend?

Is it a captured recoil spring and rod?

 

[gent21]

I had the same issue but now my P22 LOVES CCI Blazer 38 gr/1235fps, if you duplicated the issue with other ammo...maybe not the ammo. I installed a captured recoil spring and rod and if the gun has been dry fired (face it, it happens) use a chamber swage and make the chamber round again, the shell should fall in and fall out of the chamber. I also polished the feed ramp by hand, a very light coat of oil on the outside of the barrel and that thing should rock. I run about 100 to 150 rounds through mine on a Saturday. Hope it helps

 

[kstewart61]

I can shoot any ammo out of my PPKS .22 with zero failures sound like you need to send yours in for repair.

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