Oh man...I hope that prediction does not come true but somehow I wouldn't be surprised.I predict that in October of 2019 Walther will announce the production of the PPK and PPKS and will start shipping them in December '19.
No, wait! I think they tried that already..........!?
Yeah I've been begging for a full redesign of the CCP forever. That's a good idea. I had originally become enamored of the P7 style design, but that might be more practical. The ergos on the CCP are just amazing. If they took a cue from the P365 and upped the capacity to 10 rounds it would be a dream CCW for me. I tried the P365 and it's way too small for my hands.If love a new ccp... ditch the fixed barrel and go to a typical locked breech like the pps.
The size and feel of the ccp is, in my opinion, better then my pps, and a world above the ppq sc... which is just a truncated ppq grip.
On first glance, this seems like a very welcome development and a shrewd move on Walther's part.Ah yes, dustcover extends to the end of the barrel, in other words a full length 5" frame. And look at that, a 'beavertail'. Rotating takedown lever. Replaceable back straps and side panels......I'd like my side panels in 'blue' please.....or maybe red.
I understand your points Balor. I'm taking the glass half full view on this though.On first glance, this seems like a very welcome development and a shrewd move on Walther's part.
However, the weight (1,187g/42oz) and the price (1,700 Euro) propel the pistol into the heady realms of steel-framed target pistols, most of which have better triggers than any version of the PPQ. The new Walther will cost more than the CZ Shadow II (which will soon be available as optic-ready) as well as several Tanfoglio models and will cost roughly the same as the CZ Tactical Sport Orange, which has a superb trigger.
So.......the new Q5 Match Steel Frame will have some strong competitors - and those competitors have already been round the block several times.
I hear you. Quality costs. I'll step up.https://www.awm.wien/waffen/walther-q5-match-sf/
Slap my Grandma and call me Susan!
I'll be grabbing AT LEAST one of these. Make it in 357SIG or 10mm and I'll take a few more!
Not blowing smoke here, I purchased 12 "all metal" handguns in '18. The $1,700 euro price is OK by me, my last purchase (2 days ago) was a $2300 HK P7M13.
BRAVO Walther, all metal handguns are the way to go, F' producing NOTHING but mainstream "Tupperware".
I got the SF from actually clicking the link that I graciously quoted below, which was originally posted prior in this thread. I didn't make it up lol.
It does indeed stand for steel frame, by the link, as nearly as I can tell.
This idea does not fit Walther history. Besides the P-38 (and even then, Mauser and Spreewerke had to help), Walther was never an "arms producer for the masses," until the Umarex purchase. Umarex' corporate background has always been "low cost = more units sold = more profit." Thus, the explosion of models, all being plastic, and all at prices competitive with other companies in the market. Walther, traditionally, has always been: "engineer the best + high quality fit and finish = sell fewer units to the most discriminating buyers" (a.k.a. - P-5, P-88, PPK). I've always been a Walther fan because they had a "build the best" mentality, and none of my modern Walthers have been made at Umarex; only Ulm guns in my collection.Walther has gone all in on the PPQ, so more variants of PPQs. Maybe they’ll surprise us and bring back the p99 so there’s a legitimate choice in trigger function. But I doubt it and Walther continues on it’s path into obscurity/boutique brand. I’m gonna go drink more coffee and maybe cheer up.