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WaterDR
Gonna try it tomorrow....stay tuned.

Anyone else shoot that far?
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Kar98
If something's 200 yards away, I break out the mortar.
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imaoldfart
You might want to think about filing a flight plan with the FAA. They'll probably assign you a transponder code of 7700.

Here's the flight path the bullet will be flying.....zeroed for 200 yards....will be 18.25 inches high at 100 yards. :D
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WaterDR said:
Gonna try it tomorrow....stay tuned.

Anyone else shoot that far?
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In my younger days I used to shoot out to that distance
with 44 mag revolvers. I'd never shoot at game at that distance but trying to plink steel is challenging and fun.

These days I just can't see the sights well enough any more for that to be more than an exercise in frustration.

You might be surprised at what you can do at that distance once you figure out your bullet drop/holdover. I'd say you might find the lightness of the PPQ to not be conducive to holding as steady as you need too but maybe not.

Let's us know how it goes and have fun.
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WaterDR
I have gone to 100 before and once dialed in, can hit 5 of 5. Never tried 200 though.

I shoot with a red dot. I assume at 200 yards my dot will likely cover the target which means I need to be pretty perfect.
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WaterDR said:
I have gone to 100 before and once dialed in, can hit 5 of 5. Never tried 200 though.

I shoot with a red dot. I assume at 200 yards my dot will likely cover the target which means I need to be pretty perfect.
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When shooting using a red dot, and at a pretty far distance (like 100 yards), do you still put the red dot on the target you wish to hit? Or, do you aim much higher than the target and figure out how high is correct by trial and error (adjusting for bullet drop) - just like one would with iron sights?

I ask this because I have not shot with a red dot before, but am assuming it is the same as with irons? I know with iron sights, your hold has to be much higher than your target when shooting a great distances. Of course how much higher depends on the exact distance, the ammunition and particular caliber, barrel length, etc. I guess I am just wondering for red dot shooters, and at long distances (75 yards or more), do you still aim the red dot higher than your target?

I appreciate any information that you experienced red dot folks can provide. Thank you very much.
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Mystro
I have shot my PPQ out past 200 yards. It’s a long throw but once you get the hold over, it’s no difference than shooting at 100 yards. I have taken big game off-hand with a open sight 44mag 6” revolver out to 175 yards and dropped in their tracks.

FYI: If you want to be a really good shot with your CCW, shoot longer distances past your comfort zone. 20 yards will feel like a chip shot and 7 yards you will be shocked how tight and fast your groups will get.

This is what 175 yards look like:
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I've run the 50AE out to just beyond 150yds, have a SIG Romeo 4S optic (has 7.62 drops on one of the electronic display reticles). Makes ringing 10" steel plates simple off my Atlas PSR Bi-pod (7 rds in a 5" group).


Should do 200yd groups under 8", ringing 10" plates 100% (Romeo4S .5 moa dot works great for these distances).


Hickok rings his gong at 180 yds off-hand with a DEagle, with iron sights. That guy is not human!

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I have but it was probably about a yard tall by 2 feet wide steel target, I just held my dot on it and hoped for the best and was hitting it pretty consistently. I shoot my q5 at an 8 in steel target at 100 yards my best run was 5 in a row but typically can get 5 or 6 hits out of 15
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WaterDR said:
I have gone to 100 before and once dialed in, can hit 5 of 5. Never tried 200 though.

I shoot with a red dot. I assume at 200 yards my dot will likely cover the target which means I need to be pretty perfect.
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When shooting using a red dot, and at a pretty far distance (like 100 yards), do you still put the red dot on the target you wish to hit? Or, do you aim much higher than the target and figure out how high is correct by trial and error (adjusting for bullet drop) - just like one would with iron sights?

I ask this because I have not shot with a red dot before, but am assuming it is the same as with irons? I know with iron sights, your hold has to be much higher than your target when shooting a great distances. Of course how much higher depends on the exact distance, the ammunition and particular caliber, barrel length, etc. I guess I am just wondering for red dot shooters, and at long distances (75 yards or more), do you still aim the red dot higher than your target?

I appreciate any information that you experienced red dot folks can provide. Thank you very much.
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That depends and varries greatly by ammo.

With a red dot, you will have two points where your point of aim will align with the point of contact. Because the round will go up...crossing one point of aim, will go high, and then will drop again passing through the POA a second time.

For example, you might shoot Low at 5 yards, high at 25, and then low again at 150.

Assume left and right is fine, I’ll start with aiming at the target and then adjusting.

At 100 yards I found it to be pretty flat actually. I will use 115 ammo just for the speed.
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I shot a IPSC target at 185 yards with standard 3 dot sights with my VP9. I didn't hit it every time, but I did hit it multiple times. Had to aim high and slightly to the right.

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With a 10 yard zero on a red dot 100 yards should be pretty much poa poi with 115 or 124 but 147 probably have to hold high
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WaterDR
Well just returned and yes.....I can hit a steel plate at 200 yards 🙂

I was able to hit about 3 out of 5. I used 115 and 147 and frankly, noticed little difference. Likely because I couldn’t tell when I hit the plate which part of the plate I was hitting.

What to me is impressive is that in a battle situation, I would feel pretty confident at the distance and effective. If not killing the target, definitely forcing the target to keep his head down.

A guy next to me was firing a Long Gun with no scope and had no more success than I did with my Q5
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WaterDR said:
Well just returned and yes.....I can hit a steel plate at 200 yards 🙂

I was able to hit about 3 out of 5. I used 115 and 147 and frankly, noticed little difference. Likely because I couldn’t tell when I hit the plate which part of the plate I was hitting.

What to me is impressive is that in a battle situation, I would feel pretty confident at the distance and effective. If not killing the target, definitely forcing the target to keep his head down.

A guy next to me was firing a Long Gun with no scope and had no more success than I did with my Q5
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That's great!

To keep the exercise interesting and challenging, try it next time with one of these:

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Mystro said:
I have shot my PPQ out past 200 yards. It’s a long throw but once you get the hold over, it’s no difference than shooting at 100 yards. I have taken big game off-hand with a open sight 44mag 6” revolver out to 175 yards and dropped in their tracks.

FYI: If you want to be a really good shot with your CCW, shoot longer distances past your comfort zone. 20 yards will feel like a chip shot and 7 yards you will be shocked how tight and fast your groups will get.

This is what 175 yards look like:
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I completely agree!
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WaterDR
I am gonna head back soon and will take some video.

This range is nice because you can easily see the missed shots in the dirt around the target. What kind of sucks though, is that I am shooting a bit downhill.
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Tried it before, lots of fun, but I wouln’t use any more ammo myself at that distance....that’s why we have rifles :)

I’d rather expend the ammunition practicing at more realistic and practical distances.
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WaterDR
Here is my target at 100 yards. 10 shots, but only 8 holes. I think the two that missed the paper were low.

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WaterDR said:
Here is my target at 100 yards. 10 shots, but only 8 holes. I think the two that missed the paper were low.
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That's nothing!!! I've seen people at my local range who can shoot almost as good as that at 5 meters.

Balor
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ShipWreck
Not for me. I don't know if I could hit something at 200 yards using open sights on a rifle. My eyes are not that good. On a handgun? I'll pass :p
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