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Old 11-19-2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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This is an outstanding addition to your vast collection!
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In a word, wow.

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I did some research for anyone else curious:
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg39-e.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_MP

The wiki page claims that the MP-L has 100 and 200 meter settings, can you actually reach out that far with it, TANFOGLIO?



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The effective range defines the effective range of firearms.
It is the distance at which the effect of the gun is still effective.

It is not the distance of the accuracy.

The 9mm x 19mm (9Para) shot out from a MP-L (long)
have enough energy @ 200 meters.
But it is not easy to hit the target.

9x19
Maximum range ca. 1800 Meter
Max Effective, Point ca. 50m for a Pistol and ca 150m for a MP
Max Effective, Area ca 200 - 350 Meter = >85 joules


•Absolute maximum effective range: This the "this round is not considered lethal after crossing this threshold" distance. Neither of the other two common "maximum range" values will be greater than this. Purportedly, NATO defines this as the point at which the projectile's kinetic energy dips below 85 joules (62.7 foot-pounds). This is typically claimed when recounting that the P90's effective range is 400 meters on unarmored targets, as classified by NATO. It's worth noting that while the P90 looks neater than the civilian PS90, the extra barrel length increases the muzzle velocity and thus the civilian model actually has a longer absolute max effective range.

•Maximum effective range on a point target: This is the maximum range at which an average shooter can hit a human-sized target 50% of the time. "Point target" is basically a euphemism for hitting a human torso sized area in this context. If this range were greater than the absolute maximum, the absolute maximum would be quoted (a non-lethal hit may be accurate, but it's not effective).

•Maximum effective range on an area target: This is the maximum range at which an average shooter can hit a vehicle-sized target 50% of the time. In other words, this is the maximum distance at which it would make sense to open fire on a group or vehicle, etc. If this range were greater than the absolute maximum, the absolute maximum would be quoted (a non-lethal hit may be accurate, but it's not effective).
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Very neat.

Is that a "live" gun or a "DEKO"?
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