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Old 08-01-2009, 07:05 PM   #11
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There's many different kinds of polymers (or plastics), just as there are many different types of aluminum (3000, 5000, 6000 series). I'm a bit old fashioned myself, but would prefer polymer over aluminum because it's lighter, stronger, corrosion proof.

I can ask you the following: would you prefer to fly in an aircraft with wings made of cotton linen, aluminum, or "plastic"?

I still like the looks of the S&W better and being an S&W will most likely hold it's value better. It would be nice of all of them would use a standardized .22 magazine, i.e., BDM

I'll likely just get the CMMG .22 conversion kit for my Bushmaster. For $200, it's probably the better value.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:36 AM   #12
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A cursory review of the Walther / Colt by XavierBreath, a favorite reviewer of mine:

http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2...-m4-rifle.html
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For those of you that have bought the .22 AR, I am having a feed problem. About every 5th or 6th round the weapon jams.

Any suggestions on different ammo?
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:39 PM   #14
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Hmmm.
We have S&W building Walther's,
Walther building Colts,
now we just need Colt to build a Model 29 revolver and we'll come full circle!
Uh, Walther isn't building these rifles, they are MARKETING rifles built by Colt. Big difference. And I'm NOT a Colt fan. They don't make anything in the rifle, they purchase parts & assemble them. The parts must be Mil-spec qualified. But, you cannot take a Colt lower and add another manufactures upper. Pin holes Ar different size. SO, I guess that makes a Colt a NON MIL-SPEC rifle. I'll pass & keep on shooting my array of Ar's with my Ciner 22 conversion kit I got for $139 years ago with 30 round mag. No failure to feeds or failure to ejects EVER. Ammo that has bad primer, yes but that's been it thru 10K rounds!
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Old 08-15-2009, 02:21 AM   #15
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According to Colt's website:"German engineering and manufacturing have made this dedicated .22 the perfect practice and training companion for centerfire 5.56 owners."

They're doing more than just marketing it. If anything, I'd say it's the other way around. Colt is marketing a Walther made firearm.

http://www.colt22rimfire.com/index.p...colt-m16-rifle
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Uh, Walther isn't building these rifles, they are MARKETING rifles built by Colt. Big difference. And I'm NOT a Colt fan. They don't make anything in the rifle, they purchase parts & assemble them. The parts must be Mil-spec qualified. But, you cannot take a Colt lower and add another manufactures upper. Pin holes Ar different size. SO, I guess that makes a Colt a NON MIL-SPEC rifle. I'll pass & keep on shooting my array of Ar's with my Ciner 22 conversion kit I got for $139 years ago with 30 round mag. No failure to feeds or failure to ejects EVER. Ammo that has bad primer, yes but that's been it thru 10K rounds!
ME is mistaken. They are definately made by Walther. This months American Rifleman has a good write up on them. None of the parts are interchangable with any AR15. It is made to look like an AR but that is where it ends. Anyone who has seen the rifle knows it is merely a look alike.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:47 PM   #17
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Most definitely German-made.

The more I look into this critter, the more I like it. Somewhere down the road, I just may have to take the leap and get one. As the saying goes, you can never be too rich, nor too thin, nor have too many Walthers.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:07 AM   #18
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I was at the Tampa Gun Show at the beginning of the month and actually got to hold both the S&W 15-22 and Colt/Umarex M4 OPS model side by side. I will say this...the Colt feels much more substantial compared to the Smith due to the aluminum construction...it just feels much more sturdy and well built, however, the Smith's lean weight may be advantageous to someone looking for something they just wanted to plink with without getting fatigued. The Colt seems like it was built to be a perfect clone of the AR-15 for training purposes and from what I understand will accept almost all AR accessories such as optics, lasers, lights, etc. HOWEVER, niether is convertible to .223 through use of a replacement upper, and many of the parts on the Colt are non functional, such as the bolt release and forward assist. They are strictly for cosmetic accuracy. There are even simulation pins and rivits in the lower reciever to make them look more "authentic". I have not done as much research on the Smith and Wesson yet, because I liked the look and feel of the Colt better from the start (especially due to the Walther link, however remote!). I guess the Smith just kinda felt like a Soft Air gun becuase of the polymer construction and you DO NOT want that impression should it fall into the wrong hands. The Colt also has a 5 round higher capacity, which may not matter to some, but I prefer the extra 5 rounds. If anyone has an opportunity to shoot one or both, give me some feedback, as I will likely be purchasing one of the two in the near future. There is lots of info on http://www.colt22rimfire.com too and even videos on field stripping and other features.
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I understand why they are there, but the "cosmetic" parts on the Colt/Walther turn me off to the rifle. Sort of like a spoiler on an Ford Escort.

Perhaps it will be a useful training tool for those with an AR pattern rifle, but for those without, I'd much rather have a Ruger 10/22.
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For those of you that have bought the .22 AR, I am having a feed problem. About every 5th or 6th round the weapon jams.

Any suggestions on different ammo?
BigJoe062 what brand of ammo did you try?

I recently picked one of these up myself. Mine absolutely would not function with Remington Golden. I had frequent failure to chamber with Remington Golden, and when they did chamber they rarely, and I do mean rarely went bang. Although frustrated at that point that my new rifle did not like the Remington Gold, all was not lost as I had some CCI Blazer round nose and some Winchester 333 bulk pack that the rifle ate flawlessly. I have found the Winchester 333 packs at Wal-Mart locally. Needless to say I did burn up the winchester 333's rather quickly.

I would imagine that CCI mini-mags should be good to go, I have some but have not tested them yet. I also have some Federal 550 bulk pack and some Federal Auto Match bulk which I have yet to test. Also if you do not use some care when loading the magazine you can get some failure to feed issues as well, overall a good rifle, seems very accurate if you find ammo that it likes.
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