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BlitzPig 01-17-2013 10:35 AM

I almost hate to say it, but...
 
The more I see of the PPX, the more interested in it I am becoming.

Under $500 list for a brand new Walther, made in Ulm, no zinc components, a 5 ish pound smooth DA trigger.

What's not to like?

balance 01-17-2013 12:16 PM

The thing that will likely stop me from buying one, is that I'm planning on picking up a 5" PPQ M2 when it is released. The M2 will take different mags than my P99 and PPQ. If I wanted to add the PPX to the line-up, I would have to buy one more proprietary mag design for it.

Other than that, I don't see much to dislike about the PPX at the moment. At first I didn't know why it was being made, but now that I know why they made it, and that it is coming from Ulm, I'm interested in at least handling it, and I'm curious how the good the trigger is.

The only complaints I'm hearing at the moment is that the pistol has a strange looking grip, which doesn't seem to be true to me, being that from the pictures I've seen of it, the grip looks similar to the grip on the P99 and PPQ pistols. Some people are also complaining about the looks of the PPX, and this wouldn't bother me either, being that I care more about function, and when I bought the PPQ, I thought it was an ugly pistol at the time.

Given that the pistol functions well, has a good trigger, and is as reliable, durable, and accurate as the other polymer pistols coming from the Walther plant in Ulm, I see it selling as well, or possibly better than the PPQ....M2.

Milio 01-17-2013 06:17 PM

If it were being built to be a premium gun, I would be interested. I've been shooting hammer guns lately and really liking the trigger (even better than my P99AS). But as something designed to be low-cost, I'll pass.

Firemanjones 01-17-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balance (Post 235517)
The thing that will likely stop me from buying one, is that I'm planning on picking up a 5" PPQ M2 when it is released. The M2 will take different mags than my P99 and PPQ. If I wanted to add the PPX to the line-up, I would have to buy one more proprietary mag design for it.

Wait, the two PPQ's don't even share the same mags? What were they thinking!

searcher451 01-17-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firemanjones (Post 235645)
Wait, the two PPQ's don't even share the same mags? What were they thinking!

They clearly weren't. :mad:

Boogs 01-17-2013 09:32 PM

Blitz... I was beginning to feel that way as well.

Then...

I thought, "if this didn't say Walther on it, I wouldn't even consider"

It does concern me it is being touted as '"Walther's entry level pistol". I don't care for the aesthetics, nor the magazine difference (PPX and M2), but, why take a step down just to have another Walther pistol? I'm not a collector, it's all about function, and I have no reason for a PPX.

I am actually leaning towards a .40 PPQ instead of succumbing to Walther's (imo) lack of foresight, by buying an M2 supporting the decisions that led to it..

BPman 01-22-2013 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milio (Post 235621)
If it were being built to be a premium gun, I would be interested. I've been shooting hammer guns lately and really liking the trigger (even better than my P99AS). But as something designed to be low-cost, I'll pass.


Same polymer & same steel as their other 9mm/.40 S&W guns. They have merely cut prices to be more competetive and probably more due to streamlining the manufacturing process.

It's a combat handgun, not a safe queen.

Boogs 01-22-2013 08:58 AM

BP, just hoping to clarify-- are you saying they're taking a "bigger hit" by dropping the price of the PPX, when it would otherwise be appropriately priced higher?

If that is the case, I just don't see it, they had to cut something.. they're not a 501c

BlitzPig 01-22-2013 09:37 AM

Boogs,

Let's look at the Glock marketing model for a moment.

Glock gained their seemingly impenetrable foothold on the US LE market by pricing their pistols at near give away levels, and in some cases, literally giving them away. Has that hurt them at all? No. It has made Glock the preeminent manufacturer of polymer framed handguns on the planet. The British military have just dumped their aging High Powers for Glocks too.

There is no reason why this won't work for Walther as well. Currently there is only one major Police Force in North America using Walther pistols. One.

If Walther can get several metro police organizations to adopt the PPX, then this will create "buzz" that will be reflected in sales on the civilian side.

I think it's all a rather brilliant marketing plan.

Boogs 01-22-2013 11:53 AM

What types of pistols was Glock competing with when they made their splash? Revolvers?

What is Walther competing with?

I'm not saying it is impossible, I'm just saying.. If Walther is trying to oust Glock, with a pistol that is essentially the same, only significant differences being "better" ergonomics and a striker that is 100% pre-cocked, it isn't going to happen.

Turning your back on a following that has helped make the PPQ a success, by not offering that model, isn't wise either

If they are truly trying to emulate Glock's approach into the US market, I can assure you they are a few decades too late. Which is why I think it is not a good idea to take such an approach


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