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Old 11-13-2019, 09:57 PM   #21
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Both the PPS Classic and PPS M2 are excellent CC pistols. While looks count for nothing in a gunfight, my eye likes the lines of the PPS Classic more than those of the PPS M2.

PS: I would really like an alloy frame PPS Classic.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:56 AM   #22
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I really don't see the fuss concerning the backstrap. Decide which backstrap fits your hand, apply a Talon wrap-around adhesive grip (or similar) and be done with it - your backstrap won't budge.

The PPS (Classic) WAS issued in LE configuration (I have one) - assuming you mean with 6- 7- and 8-round magazines and phosphorescent sights.

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Old 11-14-2019, 05:18 PM   #23
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Still laughing about the armchair warriors worried about the backstraps. As someone who has used the PPS (in .40 cal) for years, I can tell you I have never had the backstrap pop off once. I have had the firearm drop more than once. I even watched it tumble down a flight of steps once! Yes, I use firearms for more than a range toy!

I also have the PPS M2 (in 9mm, of course), but still carry my original. I don't mind the new grip profile (although they need to add some palm-swell to make it more ergo...like the PPQ), but I don't want to give up the paddle mag release. It is also the reason I do not own an M2 in anything else. I own multiple 9mm and .40 cal PPQs w/paddle and love them. I would own the other caliber variations (.45 and .22 cal)...if only they had the paddle release. Unfortunately, Walther has chosen to listen to weenie gun reviewers, armchair warriors, and lawyers and give up one of the most significant features of their firearms!

As always...YMMV!!!
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:05 PM   #24
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I wonder why Walther omitted this feature (backstrap disconnect) from the M2?
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:52 PM   #25
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I wonder why Walther omitted this feature (backstrap disconnect) from the M2?

It might have had something to do with the chorus of whining emanating from the other side of the pond.

The same chorus of whining which caused them to drop the perfectly sensible lever magazine release.

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Ahhhhhhh, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:05 PM   #27
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Maybe they concluded they would sell more pistols without it? Doubt they would have done so without market demand.

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Old 11-15-2019, 09:10 AM   #28
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I speak from experience: dropped my PPS only once, and the backstrap came off. That is how I learned about the deactivation. Then, I read about it on the forum later. It doesn't scare me to death, as likelihood is small that it would happen in a gunfight, but I do not ignore the issue, and wish that Walther had put a little more thought into the original design. I just think some other guns are more resistant to such incapacitation.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:35 AM   #29
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I wonder why Walther omitted this feature (backstrap disconnect) from the M2?
Most likely cost. i.e. It cost more to produce the product with that feature. With the rise in single-stack competition in the market space placing downward pressure on MSRPs as the M2 was being conceived, I'm sure Walther looked at every place it could reasonably save money in order to keep costs low in order to maximize profits on a pistol whose introductory price had to be substantially lower than that of the PPS Classic when it was first released.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:24 AM   #30
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I speak from experience: dropped my PPS only once, and the backstrap came off. That is how I learned about the deactivation. Then, I read about it on the forum later. It doesn't scare me to death, as likelihood is small that it would happen in a gunfight, but I do not ignore the issue, and wish that Walther had put a little more thought into the original design. I just think some other guns are more resistant to such incapacitation.

"That is how I learned about the deactivation." It is basic firearm safety practice to understand how your firearm works before you load it. Even if you did not have the owner's manual; you certainly could have downloaded it.
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