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Old 04-09-2017, 09:21 AM   #1
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What Benefits Do Steel Guide Rods Provide?

I own a PPQ M2 with 5 inch barrel. The stock guide rod is plastic enclosed by steel spring. My question is: Do steel guide rods provide anything beneficial to gun performance; and in connection therewith, what benefits are achieved? I understand that steel guide rods are heavier, but is that an advantage? Also, if steel rods are preferable, why didn't Walther include same as stock component in lieu of the plastic guide rod. I also understand that you can purchase a steel guide rod that is longer than standard length for the PPQ with 5 inch barrel thereby bringing the end of the rod flushed with the front (muzzle) end of the gun. Is there an advantage to such extended rod?
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Hmmmm, a loaded question. Google is your friend... https://www.google.com/search?q=Diff...hrome&ie=UTF-8

The guide rod does 'one' thing....it provides a 'guide' for the recoil spring, keeping the spring from trying to act like a snake. Many manufactures use plastic in stead of steel, simply because the 'bean counters' did a little math and were able to show upper management how much money they could save by using plastic....its as simple as that.

Is steel better? Is heavier better? I guess it all depends on who you ask.

Yes, BT (maybe others) offer an extended PPQ 5" guide rod. Is there an advantage? Depends on who you ask.

But, its always nice to have options. You just need to pick the ones that work for YOU.
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You can ask the same thing about the polymer sights they put on some guns. Do they work? Yes, but you can better steel/night sights.
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With photos of curving guide rods online the question is meaningful. I've seen curved plastic, but not steel, guide rods.
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I replaced the factory plastic with BT and felt there was a very slight change in recoil motion. That said I later replaced the BT with DPM's recoil reduction system and have stayed with that because the recoil control was slightly improved over the BT. Hopefully olsoul will add his thoughts on this.
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Poly guide rods are lighter than steel and can also flex. Is flexing important for the poly frame PPQ? I don't know but it could be for reliability and/or long term durability. Since My PPQ also is carried and used for HD at times I will leave the guide rod as it came from the factory. Glocks, some SIGs, and other pistol manufacturers use poly guide rods also.
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I just hope Walther has addressed the failure of a "few" retaining end caps that hold the recoil spring Assy. togather.
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"...hope Walther has addressed the failure of a "few" retaining end caps..."

Rifleshooter, Please cite the source...
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The plastic guide rod in my KelTec P11 hasn't given me any trouble in the almost 20 years I've owned they gun until I traded it in on a PPS. And I've shot the **** out of it.
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"...hope Walther has addressed the failure of a "few" retaining end caps..."

Rifleshooter, Please cite the source...
This subject has been discussed many times in this forum, with pictures of the plastic end caps failing.

It's been a while but have not read where Walther found out if it was a material problem or something else cause a few to fail.

It did happen and i switch to a metal guide rod just to be on the safe side.
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