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Old 01-19-2020, 11:07 AM   #11
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From the sound of the original post I think fart is right. The problem was cause by the weapon being slightly out of battery.
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:59 PM   #12
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I just got back from the range. I put 140 rounds without issues.

I had the habit of helping the slide cycle forward on a new magazine but today I made sure to just snap it back and release. Much better.
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I had the habit of helping the slide cycle forward on a new magazine but today I made sure to just snap it back and release. Much better.
You just found the likely cause of the out of battery issue tsouzee
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:10 AM   #14
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Fart nailed it!!!!

I might be explaining this wrong, but I do think the PPQ is more susceptible to this than other guns. Why? Because the firing pin is fully cocked. So the firing pin and the recoil spring are working against each other. This makes the trigger awesome but can create failure to get into battery.

If it becomes an issue then most likely the recoil spring is getting weak and needs a refresh. Ask me how I know 🙂
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It's been several years since I posted here but out of curiosity I came to the PPQ section of the forum and it sounds like the failure to fire / OOB condition is still something lingering, as this post was on the front page. All in all, a bit disappointing that it is still happening in isolated cases.

Back when I had my PPQ, I dealt with a similar problem. My research led me to believe (read: my opinion) that the extractor tension, combined w/ other factors (grip strength / style), etc., could create the conditions that would cause the slide to hang up out of battery. It was obvious during slow hand manipulations, but were a clue to what could be going on during live fire, especially with a looser grip that interferes with the recoil impulse.

Some on the forum disagreed and told me I was wrong. Which is just fine. That is their opinion and they are absolutely entitled to it. It was my PPQ that was malfunctioning, not theirs. I still stand by my opinion, because after testing I knew that my my OOB condition was 100% because the case rim was not able to overcome the tension of the extractor ridge. Now, whether this was the fault of the extractor, extractor spring, or something else, who knows. As Imaoldfart has said prior (and I agree with), all the springs in semi auto pistols are a 'family' that create a working relationship together. Introduce a recoil spring that is too light, and it may not have the force to overcome the tension holding cartridges in the magazine. One too heavy, and you may get short stroking, leading to other stoppages.

It could be that the PPQ rides the edge of that working relationship a little closer that other designs. Then add in dirt, a tiring grip, whatever, and now things are pushed over the edge.

I've moved on from the PPQ, but still admire its design. I thought it had a great trigger, and was a very precise feeling handgun. Extremely accurate, and well made. Were I still to have it, I would either reduce the tension of the extractor spring, or give a very slight deburring to the underside of the extractor claw area that contacts the edge of the case rim, as see if that made a difference.

To the OP, good luck in getting things sorted out. This is a great supportive place and I'm confident that Walther will support you should you require their attention to your pistol.
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