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Old 08-23-2019, 06:20 PM   #221
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I'll have to try it sometime, if its as clean and low flash/smoke as 320, the price and availability certainly cannot be overlooked.
That's my thinking as well. I'll try to remember to post back after I make up some test loads and see how I like it.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:56 PM   #222
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I shoot with support/left index finger under the triggerguard. My support hand is high on frame as I described above. It is NOT the thumb or first joint resting on the takedown-lever with my grip, it is the second joint. While the Q5 SF recoils in my soft lil' hands, the lever gets its way through skin 'n bones.
Hmm, it sounds a little bit like Bob Vogel's kind of grip? Is your left thumb pointing downward (like his) or forward (like everybody else - lol)?

My own grip is (nowadays) pretty standard. When looking from above, my left thumb extends forward the same amount as my right index finger (when on the frame and not on the trigger).

Hmm, or if your left hand is so much more forward than your right hand, maybe it's more like a rifle grip?
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:07 PM   #223
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Yes, for example Mr. Vogel has such a grip. Except that I dont do the little clockwise cant that Rob often does.

At least the tip of my support hand thumb points definetly down in my grip.

However, at this point I'd like to draw a clear difference between the gripping styles described above and the over-aggressive ones that got overwhelming while the Costa-style hype was at its top years ago. The style were one rised and overflexed his left arm and dropped his head. And gripped like hell. It sure is a good stance to do a billdrill or mag-dump. But to shoot dynamicly on several targets/threats around you, and to do it fast, efficiently and relaxed even? Not 🙂
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Old 08-25-2019, 01:15 AM   #224
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Like it! Hopefully my 6.52 lb Sprinco striker spring will let the slide go into battery properly with these super-light 65 gr frangible ammo.

And hopefully the combination of the Sprinco white recoil spring and their 6.52 lb striker spring will let it eject spent cases properly and not cause a stove-pipe with this particular ammo.

I plan to use Sprinco's 6.52 pound striker spring for everything. I'm just going to swap out recoil spring (white: frangible ammo, yellow: hand-loaded match ammo, red: factory ammo). That's the plan. Hopefully it all works out in practice!
I installed the new Sprinco striker spring today, along with the new white recoil spring. I'll going to try the Inceptor 65gr / 1525 fps frangible again with this new setup in the following days and report how it went.

(This ammo causes stove-pipe malfunctions every ~15 rounds with the yellow recoil spring and stock striker spring. With the red recoil spring it's every ~2 rounds.)

The Sprinco striker spring is much shorter:
2019-08-25 Sprinco Striker Spring (top) vs Original (bottom).jpg

But since the plastic holders are red (not blue!) on the Q5 SF and the Sprinco striker spring is also red, it looks pretty good.
2019-08-25 Sprinco Striker Spring vs Original - Installed.jpg
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:12 AM   #225
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I installed the new Sprinco striker spring today, along with the new white recoil spring. I'll going to try the Inceptor 65gr / 1525 fps frangible again with this new setup in the following days and report how it went.

(This ammo causes stove-pipe malfunctions every ~15 rounds with the yellow recoil spring and stock striker spring. With the red recoil spring it's every ~2 rounds.)
It still didn't work. Tried two magazines of 15 rounds and got one stove pipe per magazine.

I have no more ideas on how to get the Q5 SF to shoot this factory ammo reliably...
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:56 AM   #226
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I think it's all about "mass to the ass". lol. I load 147gr. coated Fp's for my Sig 938 with 2.5gr of TG for my IDPA "BUG" loads. They only run 715 FPS but cycle the OEM spring and knockdown steel poppers just fine. You need a fast powder and a heavier bullet.

I think your 65gr frangible founds just don't have enough weight to create the initial resistance to get the slide moving. I know you can get frangible ammo in heavier weight bullets than 65gr. I'd look around.

I just did a quick google search and found frangible by Fiocchi, Federal, and Speer with 100 grs. I'd try one of those.

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Old 08-27-2019, 11:46 AM   #227
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I think it's all about "mass to the ass". lol. I load 147gr. coated Fp's for my Sig 938 with 2.5gr of TG for my IDPA "BUG" loads. They only run 715 FPS but cycle the OEM spring and knockdown steel poppers just fine. You need a fast powder and a heavier bullet.

I think your 65gr frangible founds just don't have enough weight to create the initial resistance to get the slide moving. I know you can get frangible ammo in heavier weight bullets than 65gr. I'd look around.

I just did a quick google search and found frangible by Fiocchi, Federal, and Speer with 100 grs. I'd try one of those.
I don't have a choice for that ammo. It's the required ammo for the match.
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Old 08-27-2019, 04:16 PM   #228
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Exactly THAT ammo, or ANY frangible?

That's strange.
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Old 08-27-2019, 11:07 PM   #229
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Exactly THAT ammo, or ANY frangible?

That's strange.
Exactly that ammo. Everyone in the match have to use it (so only 9mm pistols).

It's just a small local fun single-elimination tournament, so it's not a big deal. I'll just use my PPQ M2 for this match. But would've loved to have been able to use my Q5 SF...
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Old 09-15-2019, 05:03 PM   #230
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Related question.... where can I buy a replacement extractor for my SF? Thanks
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