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Old 02-18-2020, 03:04 PM   #11
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Today on Facebook... A case of schizophrenia?

Comical.

They didn't say it was going to happen but at least left the door open.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:08 PM   #12
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The .32 is an odd bird; it is more the province of enthusiasts than for serious use. I'd like to see them introduce it...the tooling really shouldn't be that expensive, and it shares common centers with the .380.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:49 PM   #13
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I occasionally carry a .32 for serious work. Got better rounds by far, but I guess I like to live dangerously on the mean streets of Watkinsville, GA.
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:09 AM   #14
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With most guns, seeing .380 as the minimum makes sense, I guess. But I tend to think PPK fans see more merit with .32/7.65 than most gun buyers. And not just because of Bond--I've been seeing stuff to the effect of this (https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/3...etty-good-too/) for years. And I get the sense PPK fans know enough about the gun to know that 7.65 is (more or less) the original, and probably better suited to the design.

So, Walther gives us a new PPK in .380, and says "no .32"... blindly assuming PPK consumers will see it like all other .380s.

Long story short: I think there's a bigger market for a 7.65 PPK than Walther thinks there is. At least that's my hypothesis.
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Old 02-19-2020, 06:15 PM   #15
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Gentleman's wager:
I'm putting my money on Walther pulling in a very quickly sold, high sales volume / low production ppk targeted at a specific demographic ("enthusiasts"/"collectors") and for a very respectable profit margin with a
"Limited Edition" release in .32 / 7.65
This would do 2 things for Walther. (In no particular order)
1. Sold Out = %$$$$$$$$$$>.380
2. Another "collectable" to add to their legends repertoire
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Old 02-19-2020, 11:58 PM   #16
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Gentleman's wager:
I'm putting my money on Walther pulling in a very quickly sold, high sales volume / low production ppk targeted at a specific demographic ("enthusiasts"/"collectors") and for a very respectable profit margin with a
"Limited Edition" release in .32 / 7.65
This would do 2 things for Walther. (In no particular order)
1. Sold Out = %$$$$$$$$$$>.380
2. Another "collectable" to add to their legends repertoire
I could see that. Start the .32 as a limited edition... test the waters. And it would definitely fit with their Legends line.

On the other hand, if they invest in tooling, design, regulatory BS to get a new gun out there... you'd think they'd want to sell as many as they could.

On the other, other hand... it's not like there's any mystery on how to make a 7.65 PPK. I guess it wouldn't require a major investment in R&D, etc. But who knows.
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I could see that. Start the .32 as a limited edition... test the waters. And it would definitely fit with their Legends line.

On the other hand, if they invest in tooling, design, regulatory BS to get a new gun out there... you'd think they'd want to sell as many as they could.

On the other, other hand... it's not like there's any mystery on how to make a 7.65 PPK. I guess it wouldn't require a major investment in R&D, etc. But who knows.
Like all firearms manufacturers, they have to do the calculatiom on what it would cost to produce it vs some prognostication of how many they think they could sell and for how much.

If you look at number of rounds and reloading components sold, I wonder where .32acp winds up?

I hope Walther produces it but I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 02-20-2020, 11:17 AM   #18
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If you look at number of rounds and reloading components sold, I wonder where .32acp winds up?
Still, people don't buy rounds for guns they don't have. Putting a crop of .32 PPKs out there may influence the sale of .32, more so than .32 will influence the sale of PPKs.

I think they need to run some focus groups so they have some real insights about what their consumers want.
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Old 02-20-2020, 11:27 AM   #19
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Still, people don't buy rounds for guns they don't have. Putting a crop of .32 PPKs out there may influence the sale of .32, more so than .32 will influence the sale of PPKs.

I think they need to run some focus groups so they have some real insights about what their consumers want.
True. Chicken and egg to some extent.
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Old 02-21-2020, 06:03 AM   #20
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.32 ACP is a good cartridge.
With the optimal ratio of properties and dimensions.
Significantly more efficient than .25 and providing more reliable automation and mag capacity than .22.
But their unreasonably high price spoils everything.
I am not a supporter of any conspiracy theories, but it seems that this cartridge was intentionally discredited by a gang of monopolists smalarms production.
Firstly, to oust from the market a huge number of pistols for this cartridge produced in the first half of the 20th century.
Secondly, to reduce production costs, due to the narrowing of the lineup.

Instead, everyone competes "Who is cutting the next Glock, which is not like Glock." And strive to foist useless crap for .22WMR or 5,7...

This is a real scam.
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