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Old 01-27-2020, 09:46 AM   #1
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1944 PPK - No mag...how much does the value drop?

So...I am considering buying a 1944 Walther PPK from a friend, I took the gun apart and everything about it is nice including the bore. The gun itself is uniformly purple (saw other threads that this is due to poor bluing techniques near the end of the war). Bigger problem is the holster is almost completely dry rotted and useless and the magazine that was in the gun is NOT a Walther PPK magazine and does not have any markings on it at all. It will not stay in the gun, as there is no cut-out to receive the magazine holder mechanism. Any thoughts to how much a magazine-less 1944 Walther PPK would be priced?
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:03 AM   #2
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Depends on condition and version of the PPK, post some good pictures and this thread can help A LOT!. Depending on the model, a WWII mag can cost $80-$250 or up (if a rarer model). So that needs to be negotiated into the value.
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:12 AM   #3
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A relatively small number of PPKs were produced with heel release for the magazine. I don’t know if they used standard magazines or special ones for that configuration. If the latter, could it be that you have a rare heel release magazine? It won’t work for you but it would have considerable value I would think?

I could be all wet here. I’m just asking for those who know to chime in....

As for the value degradation, it depends on the nature of the gun you are considering. If it is just a scruffy shooter, then a new mag has it running for $30 or so and it shouldn’t make much difference. If it’s a collector’s piece, then a proper magazine is a necessity and those don’t come cheap, so the value of the gun would be impacted accordingly.
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As phansson wrote: Some detailed pics may help.
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Pictures will help! But if heel release, flat bottom mags will work. Finger rest can be modified. A post about a month or two ago covered this. New mags will work if it is just a shooter. $20 to $30 to help negotiations on price. If it is a "collector" post above is spot on for price difference.

Capture papers or other items increase price, but condition and your willingness to pay are the greatest price determiners. Get some pictures loaded so we can give you better information. Also, markings on the pistol (military stamps etc.) can figure into your cost.

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So...I am considering buying a 1944 Walther PPK from a friend, I took the gun apart and everything about it is nice including the bore. The gun itself is uniformly purple (saw other threads that this is due to poor bluing techniques near the end of the war). Bigger problem is the holster is almost completely dry rotted and useless and the magazine that was in the gun is NOT a Walther PPK magazine and does not have any markings on it at all. It will not stay in the gun, as there is no cut-out to receive the magazine holder mechanism. Any thoughts to how much a magazine-less 1944 Walther PPK would be priced?

Your description of the gun as just a 1944 without a proper magazine does not help us give you and idea of price. It might be just a commercial of the period, or a police issue or even an RSHA issue. It all depends on the markings found on the gun. The color might indicate a dural frame. Is it magnetic? All of these comments factor into a value of the PPK. You can always buy another magazine but that will add some to the cost.
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Old 01-28-2020, 06:27 AM   #7
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Magazine pics

Here are some pictures of the magazine that was with the gun.
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Old 01-28-2020, 06:29 AM   #8
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Gun Pics

Here are some detailed pictures of the gun in question. Any help would be appreciated, especially related to the magazine...thanks!!
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Old 01-28-2020, 06:31 AM   #9
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Holster and tag

Here is the holster and tag that was with the gun.

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Old 01-28-2020, 09:17 AM   #10
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The magazine looks like a Sauer mag.
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