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Old 01-11-2020, 01:49 PM   #1
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Comparability of new Mec-gar magazines with early 1960's vintage PPK.

Hey Everyone,

I have managed to keep and use the two magazines that came with my PPK new until last week. I left an empty mag at the range. When I realized it and went back to retrieve it, it was gone 😞

Can anyone tell me if the new PPK .380 from Mec-gar are compatible? Any fitting or tuning needed?

Also, there are two different ones offered on Cheaper than Dirt. The descriptions appear identical but one is two dollars cheaper. Any clue what the difference is?

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Well, if it's any indicator, the new MecGar PPK/S mags work in my 1937 PP just fine.
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Old 01-12-2020, 10:24 AM   #3
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Thank you.

I know that the PPK you can buy new today has some differences from mine but, other than the pin, I have no idea what the differences are.

I may go ahead and order one and test drive it.
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I would be surprised if a Mec-Gar mag designed, produced, and listed for a specific model firearm, failed to function.

I ordered a few Mec-Gar mags for my early production 1900 DWM Am Eagle Luger (7.65x21/AKA; 30 Luger), both mags performed flawlessly, even locking back the toggle on the empty mag.

Didn't want to risk damaging the 120yr old mags wooden bases (this is a display cased firearm in the man cave).
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Price difference could be caused by different magazine extensions.
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I purchased some for a .32 pp and they worked fine. Then a few months ago I did some experimenting on mags...making various and sundry non Walther mags work in a .22 PP. That all went well and the steel in all of them was pretty tough and withstood drilling, bending, etc. For some reason I worked on one of the Mecgar mags and the metal was very brittle. The mags work 100% in the .32 PP but the Walther mag steel is not as brittle as the steel in the Mecgars. I don't know if it is the steel or some type of hardening process. Again, I had no problem with the function of the Mecgar mags. 1917
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I purchased some for a .32 pp and they worked fine. Then a few months ago I did some experimenting on mags...making various and sundry non Walther mags work in a .22 PP. That all went well and the steel in all of them was pretty tough and withstood drilling, bending, etc. For some reason I worked on one of the Mecgar mags and the metal was very brittle. The mags work 100% in the .32 PP but the Walther mag steel is not as brittle as the steel in the Mecgars. I don't know if it is the steel or some type of hardening process. Again, I had no problem with the function of the Mecgar mags. 1917
They're brittle because they're hardened. It's done deliberately, to resist bending by experimenters and deformation from rough handling.

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My PPK/S is stamped "70", on the chamber indicating 1970 production. I bought two Mec-Gar magazines w/finger grips, blue steel, a couple of weeks ago because the price was right. They both work flawlessly. YMMV.
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Parts for a nearly 60 year old gun may not interchange with a brand new one. Manufacturers change designs over time. The firing pin in my PPK will not interchange with a new PPK. The magazines for the original PPS will not fit the new PPS. That is why I asked before ordering them.

The mags have arrived and the springs are so stiff that I had some trouble loading them. Gonna let them sit loaded for a while before I head to the range.
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Parts for a nearly 60 year old gun may not interchange with a brand new one. Manufacturers change designs over time. The firing pin in my PPK will not interchange with a new PPK. The magazines for the original PPS will not fit the new PPS. That is why I asked before ordering them.

The mags have arrived and the springs are so stiff that I had some trouble loading them. Gonna let them sit loaded for a while before I head to the range.

Yes, manufacturers change designs over time, this is why manufacturers (like Mec-Gar) make different versions of very similar mags, and track the design changes. An e-mail to Mec-Gar should get an answer to the query if a specific mag fits a specific firearm. This is what Mec-Gar does, better then most any other mag manufacturer IMHO.


I found the same condition, the springs in the new Mec-Gar 1900 DWM Luger mags, are ~ twice as stiff as the ones in 120 yr old original Luger mags. They function great though, even locking the toggle open EVERY time (many early Lugers don't toggle lock as designed, IMHO, it could be weak mag springs).
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