New Black PPK Sightings? - Page 4 - WaltherForums
WaltherForums
 

Go Back   WaltherForums > Walther Firearms > PP and TP Series

Like Tree28Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-16-2020, 01:43 PM   #31
Senior Member
 
Walther Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: SC
Posts: 103
Walther Wood .22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo80 View Post
There sure hasn't been much demand here in Florida. The PPK and PPK/S have been sloooow movers. On the other hand the P365 has been flying off the shelves.
If I may respectfully offer my opinion; to me, I think a reason for that is two different mindsets and price points for people who purchase either one. Not slurring the Sig but it is no PPK or PPK/S. PPK/S is all steel, double action, exposed hammer, firing pin fired, thumb safety that de-cocks, proven design for decades, a round or two short of the Sig but gun fights don't usually last that many rounds anyway. Both are 9mm in caliber just one is a "short", same width, same height, Sig is 0.3" shorter overall but that's negligible, Sig is a tick over an ounce lighter that the PPK/S (empty. extra rounds prolly make them closer) but that's not a lot, etc. IMO, I think the PPK/S probably appeals to an older school crowd (like me) who already has several pistols including a PPK/S. The Sig is the new, "something shiny" (figuratively speaking, of course), striker fired concealed carry pistol kid on the block. I have heard there were a few issues with it but I don't have one so I can't say from experience. Sig makes a top-shelf product. The brand new PPK/S seem to run a couple hundred dollars more than the Sig so I imagine that has something to do with it as well. The PPK/S served me well for EDC for decades. I had to struggle to let go of the hammer, double action, thumb safety setup to get in to the striker fired design which is absent most of those features because the PPK/S and its design as mentioned was what I grew up with and was used to. Older folks still buy pistols but probably not at the rate a newer enthusiast does who is just starting to amass his/her collection. That's another issue - females and there buying preferences. Females are buying pistols these days whereas when I was growing up, not so much. The Sig would probably be an easier sell to an novice or female. Rack and fire or rack, put in holster, and when needed, draw - aim - pull trigger to fire. Just my opinion. I am biased, though. If someone makes a better weapon then right on and I will admit it. I just don't see it in Sig over the Walther anything.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_20190716_072509.jpg (146.3 KB, 19 views)
Walther Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Register
Old 01-16-2020, 10:11 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
Jimbo80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,817
Jimbo80 .22
Here's the promised photo of the full set of Ft. Smith offerings which are still in stock.

It is not surprising they are not selling well. Not many guns are. We have NIB FN 509s and Beretta 92s up the kazoo for under $400. Shields are selling when they get close to $200 and sitting at $279. Walther couldn't have picked a worse time to release the long delayed PPK/PPKS especially at a $700+ price point.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4guns.jpg (84.0 KB, 36 views)
Larry D. likes this.
Jimbo80 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2020, 01:36 AM   #33
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 89
Pantera Mike .22
That photo really highlights the Gawdawful schnozz Walter put on the back of those pistols. It just ruins it aesthetically and has negative practical implications too. If I had one, I couldn’t wait to whittle it awaw, as some have done on some of the earlier guns similarly afflicted.
pilkguns likes this.
Pantera Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 01-17-2020, 11:02 AM   #34
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,274
Jimmo952 .22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantera Mike View Post
That photo really highlights the Gawdawful schnozz Walter put on the back of those pistols. It just ruins it aesthetically and has negative practical implications too. If I had one, I couldn’t wait to whittle it awaw, as some have done on some of the earlier guns similarly afflicted.
I agree with you. I'm less the PPK purist than many but those pictures look horrible to me. They highlight the schnoz's out sized proportions.

In the continuum of performance vs looks, I'm more on the performance side but geez, that does look "ungainly".

Seems like with a little more effort Walther could have done better.
Jimmo952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2020, 08:05 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Walther Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: SC
Posts: 103
Walther Wood .22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantera Mike View Post
That photo really highlights the Gawdawful schnozz Walter put on the back of those pistols. It just ruins it aesthetically and has negative practical implications too. If I had one, I couldn’t wait to whittle it awaw, as some have done on some of the earlier guns similarly afflicted.
That really is a big ol' schnoz on the back, isn't it. That beaver tail came from a smasquanch beaver.
Walther Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2020, 11:46 AM   #36
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Backwoods Virginia
Posts: 13,788
MGMike .38
Never understood why S&W didn't curve the tang into a more graceful side profile but also into a more rounded cross-sectional curvature on the grip frame (when viewed from above or below) so it more naturally fits the hand. Or why Fort Smith stupidly copied it without any improvement.

M
Jimbo80, pilkguns and Jimmo952 like this.
MGMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2020, 10:15 PM   #37
Senior Member
 
Jimbo80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,817
Jimbo80 .22
I'm guessing internet pictures of bloody hands and lawyers have something to do with it.
Jimbo80 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2020, 10:23 PM   #38
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,274
Jimmo952 .22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo80 View Post
I'm guessing internet pictures of bloody hands and lawyers have something to do with it.
Once again, I'm not the PPK purist or longtime aficionado some on this forum are. But....Walther could have achieved what they wanted to...which is a gun less prone to slide bite....in a more graceful and aesthetically pleasing way.
pilkguns likes this.
Jimmo952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2020, 10:57 PM   #39
Senior Member
 
Kar98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,666
Kar98 .22
Yeah I don't get it. Neither my PPK/S .380, my Kimber Micro 9 nor Glock 43 have such an unsightly beaver tail and somehow I don't get bit by the slide.
Kar98 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2020, 11:10 PM   #40
Senior Member
 
Jimbo80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,817
Jimbo80 .22
The gun itself has never been prone to slide bite. If you get bit it's user error. The only way to bleed is by putting your hand where the slide goes. It's REALLY easy to figure out where the slide goes and where to put your hand.
Jimbo80 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   WaltherForums > Walther Firearms > PP and TP Series

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.