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Old 09-22-2019, 11:30 PM   #1
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Something I found out

I posted below about my Clinger holsters for my pair of PPKs. One a 1968 PPK in .32, the other a recently acquired Interarms PPK in .380. A fine pistol that shoots where it looks.


Anyway, due to my problems fitting the Interarms in my Clinger holster, which was excellent with my .32, I found the holster needed a lot of attention. It went from not secure, to over-secure...it locked the pistol in the Kydex holster so tightly I had to do some major overhaul to the holster. Now it holds the pistol .380, but not as well as the .32. I pondered over this problem.


So I measured the slides. To my surprise, I found the slide of the .380 was 1/4" longer than the .32...this prevented the pistol from going in deep enough to secure the pistol. In fact, in one adjustment, it locked the pistol in the holster. Couldn't be drawn, after carrying it AIWB and possibly subjecting it to my body temp.



I got it to work, but not as secure-feeling as the .32. It has about 1/4" additional slide length, which doesn't give it enough lock into the holster like the German made pistol. The German gun slid and locked into the holster very well, discernibly lower to lock. Gives me confidence.


It's a problem that can be overcome with spacers and screws to make an adequate fit, , but that's not the point. In my measurements, the German PPK slide is 5", and the Interarms PPK in .380 is 5 1/4". I measured this with a folding tape, so it may not be exact, but I did it twice and came up with the same. Which means the German gun will fit 1/4" deeper in the holster, (my AIWB) than the Interarms. This doesn't sound like a whole lot, but it makes a difference.


So, they're not the same pistol in .380 SS Interarms or blue "Made In W Germany" .32...at least to my measurements. The caliber may have something to do with this, I just don't know. I'd like input on this.
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Old 09-23-2019, 05:08 PM   #2
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I'm assuming your .380 is a PPK/S and if that is the case, then it will be different than your .32. The PPK/S was created in response to the Gun Control Act of 1968. Basically, they had to increase certain proportions on the PPK in order for it to be imported, hence the PPK/S.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:31 PM   #3
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No, It's a PPK in .380, stainless steel.



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Old 09-23-2019, 07:31 PM   #4
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Just remeasured both guns with a caliper and I was wrong. They're both the same. Or nearly so.


I apologize for posting bum info.

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Old 09-23-2019, 09:48 PM   #5
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I was waiting for you to find that out for yourself. The difference in holster fit is most likely due to the difference in the way the front underside (what I call the "chin") of the slide is machined and polished. Some of the final contouring was omitted in the Interarms Ranger version; S&W went even further in simplification, and left unsightly "fangs" on the front of the slide.

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I’m sorry but I find the notion of putting a ‘68 PPK in a kydex holster disturbing.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:33 PM   #7
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Yeah, that was just for fit. I usually carry my .32 in a Berns-Martin Triple Draw, like Bond, James Bond did.


Here's the 51 year old gun, showing its age.



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Old 09-27-2019, 12:06 AM   #8
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Iím sorry but I find the notion of putting a Ď68 PPK in a kydex holster disturbing.

Here's carry my 68 7.65 in leather...the proper medium forv a blue PPK Don't want to violate any rules.



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Old 09-27-2019, 11:57 PM   #9
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Tried th cancel the following post of the above, which was a repeat, but couldn't. Tried again, so maybe it won't be confusing.

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Old 09-28-2019, 01:47 PM   #10
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I'm sorry, but I find the notion of putting any minty PPK in a holster disturbing.
Stainless, what the heck.
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