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Old 06-21-2019, 05:51 PM   #1
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Problem or PPK/S idiosyncrasy?

I haven't had much chance to play with my new PPK/S since I got it last month and at that time I noticed that after I inserted a mag and chambered a round the mag would not drop free if I pressed the mag release. I thought this was odd but I didn't pay it much mind until today when I decided to look into it a little more closely.

It appears that when in insert a full, or even partially full, mag and chamber a round and then hit the mag release that the mag only drops down about a 1/4 of an inch and then is stubborn to pull out. What appears to be happening is when I chamber a round the next round is moved forward about a sixteenth of an inch or so by the forward movement of the slide and thus if I try and remove the mag that round is sticking out just far enough to bind up on the feed ramp making for a stubborn removal. It will do this with the first round to the last one, in both mags. It doesn't interfere with the firing of the gun as it chambers the round without a problem, but if I want to make a speed change of a partial mag to a full one, then it would not be a smooth process.

I should also mention that the mags drop free when empty or when all the rounds are lined up.

So, being relatively new to the PPK/S, I am curious if this is an inherent problem, or just mine.

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Old 06-21-2019, 07:32 PM   #2
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FWIW my mags seem to eject normally full, partially full, or empty.
But I may not have paid real attention to a slight hang-up once.
I’ll pay attention now and advise.
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Old 06-21-2019, 07:41 PM   #3
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When you chamber around it can cause to next round to move forward just enough to cause what you are experiencing. This is normal.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:24 PM   #4
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You said 'mags'; do both of your mags do this?
If the gun runs normally, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:36 PM   #5
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Ya, both mags, but like you say, I'm not going to worry about it. I just thought it was a little unusual and with my limited PPK/S knowlege I wasn't quite sure.

Thanks guys for your input.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:23 AM   #6
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What you are experiencing is normal. Now if the magazines are doing such while empty, then the issue would be with the grip panels.
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... What appears to be happening is when I chamber a round the next round is moved forward about a sixteenth of an inch or so by the forward movement of the slide and thus if I try and remove the mag that round is sticking out just far enough to bind up on the feed ramp making for a stubborn removal. ...

I am curious if this is an inherent problem, or just mine.
What, you thought there was no price to be paid for hogging out the feed ramp so it would feed those fat aggressive hollowpoints?

The problem is non-existent or negligible in original Walther, Manurhin or Interarms PP-series pistols. Not so in S&W and new Walther.

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Old 06-22-2019, 02:22 PM   #8
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It looks like if they had started the slope/angle of the feed ramp just a little further up this problem wouldn't exist and it would still feed hollow points.
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:47 PM   #9
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I have the identical experience with my Manurhin.
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:29 PM   #10
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My S&W PPK/S had this problem for awhile before the magazines had been broken in.

The mag springs are just so strong when new that as the first round is chambered the next round gets pushed up before the first round has fully chambered, causing the head of the first round to catch the next round, dragging it forward a short distance.

A remedy I had found was to attempt to drop the magazine, then slap it back into place and drop it again, it should drop free on the second attempt.
Eventually the problem will go away once the mag springs have been worn in a bit.
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