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Old 06-19-2019, 11:17 PM   #1
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PP 9mm from WWII???

I have a friend with a Walther PP, in 9mm. The story is that it was his uncle's and was kept in his WWII souvenir chest. The SN is 901549. Can someone please direct me towards a resource where I can learn more about this pistol and maybe even get a value range.

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Old 06-20-2019, 01:18 AM   #2
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To be clear, it’s not 9mm. It’s 9mm Kurz, otherwise known as 380 ACP. Much shorter and less powerful than the traditional 9mm. I say this not to be pedantic, but rather because if your friend is not knowledgeable about firearms, he could easily ask for and purchase ‘9mm’ ammo by mistake. It’s too large and will not fit the PP. He would have to ask for 380 ACP.

Others will have to advise you about it, but you have definitely found the best information resource around. Answers should be flowing soon. Photos would really help?
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:53 AM   #3
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Does it have waa359 proofs on the slide and frame? Is there a matching mag with the gun? These conditions affect the value. Also, is the finish original? Check out the photos provided to see what the proofs look like and how the serial number should look to. Hope this helps...
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Photo's will help.

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Old 06-20-2019, 10:18 PM   #5
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Here are a couple photos of the PP 9mm

So, the markings clearly say 9mm, and my friend has shot the pistol.

The feedback is great. I'll ask my buddy next time I see him if he remembers shooting this with 9mm vs .380.

I was aware of the 'K' meaning short and referring to .380. This is why the 9mm marking along with the PP designation and not the PPK designation on the pistol caught me by surprise.

The pistol itself was in good condition, missing blue but no rust at all. My buddy still has the original holster (no markings). I did have one magazine but I didn't check for a SN on that.

These pictures are not great...but maybe they'll give a hint or two.

Thanks again...
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:47 AM   #6
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IIRC the 90 Degree Safety version was produced from 1929-1935/1936.
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Old 06-21-2019, 04:47 AM   #7
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Greetings, if you looked closely at my slide photo you’d see it’s marked 9mm. But, it’s a 9mm Kurtz or .380. There are no waa proofs on your friends gun. So, it’s not a Luftwaffe gun. I can’t tell if the finish is original or not. If it is, in Ky , your gun would bring 1500.00 to 1700.00. That’s a retail price range. Hope this helps..
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OP's gun clearly has a button magazine release. The early 9mm kurz pistols produced at ZM did use buttons and only later changed to the heel release like in Slow10ker1's pics. It's also not unusual for a 9mm kurz PP slide to be marked as "Cal. 9m/m".

Better pics would help but it sounds like it's a very early 9mm kurz prior to the magazine release relocation.
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More fooling around to create a magazine for an old PP 22 pistol.

In another thread.... 1917

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