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Old 06-23-2011, 10:39 AM   #1
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Carrying P99c in AS mode- safe or not?

Hi,

My 99c AS is new to me (fired 200+ rounds through it) and on an upcoming trip I will have the first opportunity to carry it. It will mostly be in the glovebox, but since I don't yet have my Serpa for it, some carry will be in a CCW type fanny pouch (with built in generic holster).

Yes, I know that the safest carry is decocked in DA mode, but that would make it very much like my Sig P239 that I hoped the P99 would replace.

What's the concensus- if the trigger isn't exposed, but isn't in a rigid kydex holster, is it still safe to carry in AS mode?

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No more unsafe than carrying a 1911 cocked w/one in the chamber... which I personally won't do, but other opt to. The ultimate safety is your brain -which is why I keep mine decocked!
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There have been threads in the past regarding this topic. The vast consensus is that it is not the safest practice to carry the gun in the AS mode. I personally would never carry my P99 in AS mode.
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The P99 AS was designed to carry in double-action mode, and that's the way I both carry and practice—double-action on the first shot.
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The vast consensus is that it is not the safest practice to carry the gun in the AS mode. I personally would never carry my P99 in AS mode.
I'm sure this has been covered ad nauseum, and I may be mistaken, but isn't double-action mode "AS" mode?

In other words, in a stress situation, or when loaded and holstered, you "want" Anti Stress (de-cocked double action) mode as to not mistakenly or prematurely engage the lighter (single action) trigger pull.

That's how I understand it.
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1 - not using a safety feature seems like a bad plan
2 - I highly doubt that you'd notice the difference in a panic situation
3 - any problems with the DA-to-SA transition can be solved with training and practice



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Hi,

My 99c AS is new to me (fired 200+ rounds through it) and on an upcoming trip I will have the first opportunity to carry it. It will mostly be in the glovebox, but since I don't yet have my Serpa for it, some carry will be in a CCW type fanny pouch (with built in generic holster).

Yes, I know that the safest carry is decocked in DA mode, but that would make it very much like my Sig P239 that I hoped the P99 would replace.

What's the concensus- if the trigger isn't exposed, but isn't in a rigid kydex holster, is it still safe to carry in AS mode?

Thanks
Yes it is safe. Like any gun with appropriate internal safties the weapon won't discharge unless the trigger is pressed. Like anything, there is a higher margin of safety with a harder DA pull from issues like catching a shirt upon re-holstering and so on. I carry DA but wouldn't hesitate to carry AS either. Regardless of what the lawyers have stated in the latest manuals, it was designed to have this ability.
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I'm sure this has been covered ad nauseum, and I may be mistaken, but isn't double-action mode "AS" mode?
Nope. It is not. The AS trigger system has THREE modes: Double-action (long trigger pull, heavy weight), Single-action (short trigger pull, light weight), and Anti-stress (long trigger pull of the double-action, light weight of the single-action).

Anti-stress mode is the mode the weapon is in when a round is chambered. Double-action mode is the mode the weapon is in when the decocker is pressed after chambering a round. Single-action mode is the mode the weapon is in after a shot is fired.
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Anti-stress mode is the mode the weapon is in when a round is chambered. Double-action mode is the mode the weapon is in when the decocker is pressed after chambering a round. Single-action mode is the mode the weapon is in after a shot is fired.
Makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up... for me anyway...
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