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WaterDR 08-10-2018 11:27 AM

Prices on P5s
 
Hey guys, might try to pick one up.

Can anyone provide some guidance on what to expect to pay for the following:

P5 and P5C - Never fired, perfect. All boxes.

P5 and P5C - Great condition. Not perfect. Good for range use or carry.

P5 and P5C - Beat up but still save to shoot. Perhaps lots of wear and maybe even a candidate for restoration.

I know there are TONS of variants. Commercial guns vs police guns, UK bs Denmark etc....

So just looking for some general ideas.

imaoldfart 08-10-2018 11:48 AM

P5 & P5C prices can fluctuate quite a bit over time.

P5 and P5C - Never fired, perfect. All boxes. P5 - $1,000 to $1,500. P5C - Add $500.

P5 and P5C - Great condition. Not perfect. Good for range use or carry. P5 - $750 to $1,000. P5C - Add $500.

P5 and P5C - Beat up but still save to shoot. Perhaps lots of wear and maybe even a candidate for restoration. P5 - $400 to $600. P5C - Add $500.

Those are just some wags.....but ballpark. Like anything else, it sometimes depends on luck and timing.

DeutschlandUberAlles 08-10-2018 12:08 PM

I only know what I deem acceptable.


For starters, there really are no BAD variations. I actually prefer the "stepped" mag release (early var) over the "flat". This change made inadvertent mag ejection for LEOs less likely. I think the stepped release is difficult enough.


Also, the later version firing pin dropping spring (easy to see, hole in top of slide near rear sight) is said to SLIGHTLY degrade trigger feel. I have 2 Var4s and 1 Var8, really slight difference.


The top of the prices is obviously NOS, these have NEVER been out of the supply chain or gun store hands, therefore, the best of the best. Expect around $1700/$1800 for the P5, $2100/$2200 for the P5C. Some well regarded firearm auction house attached to sale?? Add $500!!!


NIB, ONLY 1st owner can make this claim!!! He has had EXCLUSIVE access to firearm post purchase, and can attest to it NEVER being fired (or handled excessively, I've seen NIB firearms jacked from dry cycling/firing). Again MY impression of value, $1200/$1400 P5, $1600/$1700 P5C. Auction house? Add $500.


Appears NIB, no longer in first owners hands, looks unfired. My "bread and butter" sweet spot on getting unfired P5s at great prices. $1000/$1200 P5, $1400/$1500 P5C.


A well worn, somewhat dogged 60% shooter. $400/$500 P5


A clean, well maintained +90% shooter $700/$800 P5.


The Dutch destroyed around 50,000 P5s (all police turn ins) leaving slightly over 50,000.

DeutschlandUberAlles 08-10-2018 12:12 PM

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OF seems to think along the same lines.


Edit: Wow, really close values between the two of us! You're will to pay a little more for the P5Cs.


Part of what drives acceptable prices? What the purchaser thinks availability of NOS/NIB/Appears NIB P5s & P5Cs will be in the future. I see the market thinning out some (why I'm grabbing all I can now). Also, the Political winds effect prices.


Part of what keeps my P5C value SLIGHTLY down is the Doll Factor, the loss of .5" makes it seem stunted to my eye.....

DeutschlandUberAlles 08-10-2018 12:45 PM

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WaterDR 08-10-2018 01:46 PM

Great guys! Just what I needed to know.

Ok...now dumb question time. A P5 can have the longer barrel or the short barrel and still not be a P5C right?

If I were to find 60% gun that is fully functionall, and restore it....all new bluing, new grips, what would happen to the value?

Let’s say I spend $400 on a gun....put another few hundred in it, will it still be a $400 gun or more like a $600 gun?

DeutschlandUberAlles 08-10-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 1144688)
Great guys! Just what I needed to know.

Ok...now dumb question time. A P5 can have the longer barrel or the short barrel and still not be a P5C right?

If I were to find 60% gun that is fully functionall, and restore it....all new bluing, new grips, what would happen to the value?

Let’s say I spend $400 on a gun....put another few hundred in it, will it still be a $400 gun or more like a $600 gun?


All P5s are 3.5" barrel (unless you find a P5 Lang, if you do, buy a lottery ticket too, You'll win), all P5Cs are 3." barrel. The M2 mag release makes the P5C a viable carry choice is.


I would think a properly refurbished beater P5/P5C would see a 50% increase in value. I would be all over a Robar NP3 finished "well used" P5 for around $600/$700. Great shooting gun, with a great, super slick, wear resistant finish.

GeoNole94 08-10-2018 04:13 PM

The $500 adder for the compact version cited above seems a bit low to me based on what I have seen over the years. I would place the premium on the compact at closer to $750, at least at the better end of condition. FWIIW, I have never seen a compact in poor cosmetic condition advertised for sale, unlike the full-size version, probably because of duty and carry uses for the P5.

I used to think the compact was much less attractive than the P5, but there are some smoothed edges and other touches on the compact that make it quite attractive in person. YMMV

DeutschlandUberAlles 08-10-2018 04:49 PM

I agree, I personally undervalue the P5C at this time. Might be why I don't have one yet.


The south Austin gun store where I picked up my Var8 spotless P5 had five "appeared NIB" P5Cs, $1295 per, HK got the last one a few days before I grabbed the same consigners P5.


I would have grabbed all five P5Cs at that price.

Redcat94 08-10-2018 04:58 PM

I paid $995 for my P5 two or three years ago. The pistol looked new and unfired. It was import marked but that was unobtrusive and neetly done. All it came with was a box and bilingual Swedish/German manual. I picked up a single spare magazine for $95.


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