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Old 03-08-2020, 04:35 PM   #1
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My first impressions of P22 CA

After reading lots of posts about ammo, I finally got a chance to shoot my new P22 CA for the first time. I first cleaned and lubed the pistol and swapped in the Tandemkross captured recoil spring. No other modifications. First ammo i tried was 50 rounds of Armscor 36gr hollowpoint. Zero failures-- very impressed. Next I burned through 50 rounds of Aguila 40 grain copper plated round nose high velocity. 3 failures to extract. Last, I tried 50 rounds of Winchester 40 gr Super X hyper velocity. Too many failures to load to count-- almost every round I had to re-rack to load a round in the chamber. Extraction was fine, just wouldn't pick up a new round to chamber. Btw, tried 4 different magazines with no improvement. Got really worried that the gun was just going to be untrustworthy with that ammo or maybe just temperamental once it gets a little dirty.

Went home and cleaned and lubed and tried shooting again the next week.

This time I started with the Winchester Super X-- zero malfunctions. Then followed with the Aguila-- zero problems, and then finished with the Armscor-- zero problems. I know it's still early, but I'm guessing that the gun just needed to wear in a little because it worked beautifully the second time shooting. Next time I'll move on to more different types of ammo, just to experiment but I feel pretty good about the P22.

By comparison, I also own a S&W 2213 (2.5 in barrel) and 22A (5 in barrel) and the shorty has always been reliable as long it has high velocity ammo and the 22A has been rock solid with everything except subsonic ammo (I experimented with this back when 22LR was hard to get in my area and this was what was available)
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Old 03-08-2020, 06:03 PM   #2
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Welcome mchinn1968. Yes you will find the P22 likes snappy ammo. Two that are very, very reliable are CCI Mini Mags and Remington Golden Bullets. Others work but basically the rounds have to develop enough energy to blow the slide all the way rearward. That blowback gas is what pushes the spent case out with enough energy to move the slide, cock the hammer and still have case bounce off the ejector and out of the pistol. Weak ammo won't accomplish this.

Walther now makes a captive recoil spring but you have to drill the guide rod hole out to 1/4" for it to fit. It is well made and all new pistols come with it. Again welcome. 1917
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Old 03-09-2020, 04:26 AM   #3
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Welcome to the Walther forum, great first post.
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Old 03-09-2020, 04:00 PM   #4
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Thank you for the welcome

It would be cool to have the factory captured spring, but since I already have the Tandemkross and it seems to work great, I'll just stick with it-- I really appreciate this discussion forum for turning me on to that part.The other thing I worried about initially was what direction the brass would extract towards; thankfully it does seem to kick out to the side so maybe Walther has that ironed out (hopefully).


Thanks for the welcome, and especially to 1917 for all of the detailed posts/explanations. Your experience and knowledge is really impressive and helpful.


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Old 03-09-2020, 06:47 PM   #5
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mchinn1968 - what's the two letter date code on the right side of the barrel chamber area? See attached JPG file. If it's a newer California (CA) model, I would have thought it would already have the captured recoil spring.


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Old 03-10-2020, 11:00 AM   #6
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I just checked and the barrel is marked BK. Thanks for the tip-- I wouldn't have known what that stood for. The thing is, when I purchased the gun, it was my hope that it would include the improved spring, so it was disappointing that it didn't-- maybe it's a California thing since the state is shackled by so many restrictions involving firearms. Just thankful for the Tandemkross option-- well worth the $20
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Old 03-10-2020, 07:16 PM   #7
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A couple of Members have posted that Walther can not make changes to the CA approved P22...even the color of the pistols are approved and can't be changed. QD decocker not offered in CA and likely not the captive spring either. I did look on the Walther page regarding P22's for CA and it seems sure enough..there are a few specific models. For some reason CA models have shown up for sale in other parts of the Country since day one. 1917
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https://www.waltherforums.com/forum/...-assembly.html

Doing this might be legal, might not be in CA. installing the Walther captive spring in a P22 with the old style recoil spring assembly. 1917
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I do also remember reading some posts expressing that restrictiveness in CA, so I was prepared for my P22 to have the uncaptured spring as a result-- I guess its just part of living in CA that you kinda get used to all of the dumb restrictions involving firearms.
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A question I don't know the answer to is can a P22 owner legally install a removable barrel nut, install any type of non stock parts such as aftermarket recoil spring assemblies. Walther might not be able to make the changes...but can an owner? It seems there is some regulation in CA that has been passed that would require Walther to micro stamp the firing pin nose. Now that seems pretty tricky if so and how long would such a stamp last. Not long I suppose if I dropped my firing pin on its nose on my concrete floor while cleaning it. 1917
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