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Old 07-28-2013, 02:21 PM   #1
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IDPA ESP classification

I just read the new rules regarding pistol classification and it looks like the PPQ will now fall under stock service pistol (SSP) instead of enhanced service pistol (ESP). I think the new rules go into effect in OCT. 2013
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:52 PM   #2
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Yikes! That's almost unfair for anyone not using a PPQ.

Good luck out there, gents.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:15 PM   #3
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it was always SSP??????????????????
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:26 PM   #4
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No..right now it is ESP. Because of the single action trigger......
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:42 PM   #5
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The cat will soon be out of the bag. PPQ is already gaining popularity but I'm pretty sure SSP is about to get dominated by Walther.
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I'm pretty sure SSP is about to get dominated by Walther.
You'd like to think that was true, but past history indicates otherwise. Many people tend to stick to their brands, even in the face of better products coming along, for a variety of reasons: from being stubborn to be tight-fisted to being stubborn to being stubborn. Mag availability, of the lack thereof, also isn't helping Walther's cause at the moment.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:12 PM   #7
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My current feelings about IDPA.....





I've shot my PPQ in both IDPA and USPSA, and until a few weeks ago I met a forum member at a match, and it was the first time I ran into someone else shooting one at a match.

It's always a curiosity, especially at major matches (State Match, Area, Sectional) the R.O.'s love to check it out, see what it is, I constantly get requests to let someone "put a few rounds thru it". People do like it, they really like the trigger. I know a few people locally who shot mine and ended up buying, but none of 'em have taken it to a match, and don't plan on it.

I love my PPQ, but it is just not as friendly for competition shooting because of the lack of aftermarket support and, right now, magazines that other manufacturer's enjoy. While anyone who shoots a PPQ remarks what a great stock trigger it is, most folks have dropped in after market triggers in their own gun to improve the performance. It's a fun gun to shoot, it's my personal choice (Although I did pick up an XDM 5.25" that I'm going to put some money into getting fixed up for me.) and for it's price it's an incredible value, but I honestly don't expect to see masses of them at matches anytime soon.

Just my two cents though.

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Best description of an IDPA match I've ever seen. Haha.

I'd love to shoot my PPQ in competition, but the magazines, or lack thereof, is killing me (a common theme). I tend to shoot the PPQ better than my G19 and I haven't even bothered to get a holster and mag pouches for my P226 (although I have about 10 mags for it and I could).

I really want to shoot the PPQ in a match, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Like you, I don't see the PPQ catching on just yet with the lack of aftermarket support.

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The PPQ stock trigger alone is gonna give competition headaches..

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The PPQ stock trigger alone is gonna give competition headaches..

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If only people did not drop in other triggers it sure would.....
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