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Old 10-05-2017, 04:10 PM   #1
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Well, looks like they are going to ban the sale of them and look into the legality of them. Now comes my quandary, I already own a couple, never installed them yet, just wanted them just in case. I do not really want to be a criminal but if they decide to make them illegal will they offer any compensation for voluntarily surrendering them? Probably not. Sort of makes it a case of theft by legislative fiat. I hate to loose a few hundred dollars just because some miscreant decided to shoot up a crowd. BTW, prices on Gunbroker have gone through the roof and Cabela's and MidwayUSA have already pulled them.
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Old 10-05-2017, 04:22 PM   #2
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I'd suggest you call them undocumented, because you dream about having them here. Some folks love that kind of thinking.
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Old 10-05-2017, 04:27 PM   #3
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I would think they would become class three items and you will have to go that route to own them. I always found my trigger finger could move faster than my pocketbook and that was enough for me. Like always....only takes one person to screw it up for everyone......learned that in the 1st grade. 1917
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There is run on them right now, so sell them for a profit.

I don't see the point in them, but I have no need to fire indiscriminately at berms, trees, crowds, etc.
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I would think a national ban would have to be accompanied by a nationally funded buy-back of some kind. My gut says these will fall under NFA-type restrictions, with further manufacture being banned and future transfers subject to the tax stamp and background check.
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Yeah, I would expect same. Our shop is going to be selling a bunch for AK's on a large online auction site in the next few days. Personally, never saw a use for them.


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I've fired one on an AR-15 platform. They are a pretty piss poor stand in for a proper full auto weapon.
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I would think a national ban would have to be accompanied by a nationally funded buy-back of some kind. My gut says these will fall under NFA-type restrictions, with further manufacture being banned and future transfers subject to the tax stamp and background check.
The Takings Clause, the last clause of the Fifth Amendment, limits the federal government's power of eminent domain by requiring that "just compensation" be paid if private property is taken for public use. While usually applied to real estate, the term private property is clearly not limited only to real estate. In this case, the removal/banning of something by the government to promote public safety would be considered public use, I'd think ... and the private property in question would, of course, be the stocks they want to remove/ban. Like Doug, I would suspect that any already purchased stocks would likely end up grandfathered or bought back at fair market value ... specifically to avoid violating the Takings Clause. Grandfathering seems to have more precedent: e.g. Walther PPK's that entered the United States before the 1968 import ban were grandfathered.


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That traitorous ***** Feinstein needs to be put against a wall.
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That traitorous ***** Feinstein needs to be put against a wall.

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