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Old 05-21-2012, 05:51 PM   #1
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zinc plated steel ammo?

What is everyones opinion on zinc plated steel ammo? i.e. silver bear. I know steel ammo isnt recommended in almost any pistol but what about the plated stuff? I am looking for cheap practice ammo and found some for $100 for 500 rounds.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:26 PM   #2
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There is a reason it is so cheap.

I just don't touch it, and some of the other comparable foreign ammos, mainly sticking with US made ammo.

But, I have a buddy that swears by the cheap ammo and runs it in everything he owns. Doesn't really care and thinks that if the gun can't run it then the gun is not reliable, lol.

To each his own. Btw, don't know if it is right, but the Web site for the importer states that silver bear is nickel plated. Don't know if it makes a difference, just throwing it out there.
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:50 PM   #3
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What is everyones opinion on zinc plated steel ammo?
I myself have never heard of zinc jacketed ammunition. This of course doesn't mean it doesn't exist as my knowledge of this world is finite at best, but I simply cannot think of a worse jacketing metal than zinc. Zinc is just about the softest, cheapest and nearly worthless metal there is. It will probably clog the riflings of a barrel worse than if the lead bullet were left unjacketed. Zinc has a very low melting point and can be scratched with a fingernail.

Try this experiment: Many think the American penny coin is actually made of copper, but it is not. It's actually a copper-coated zinc slug! The reason for this is simple: if it were made of copper it would actually be worth something! Take a penny coin and hold it in a set of hemostats or long "tweezers" and hold it over a natural gas or propane gas flame on your common cooking stove. In a few seconds it will melt away into a grey-silver blob of useless metal!

Zinc is a terrible choice for jacketing a bullet. If you've actually managed to find an ammunition that uses such, be prepared to scrub your barrel with a bronze wire brush for a good long time in an attempt to clear the galled metal from the rifling valleys. You'll probably never get it out of there.

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For some reason Pilot, I think he was referring to the casings, not the actual round...

Maybe the OP can clarify, but I am pretty sure he meant the casings. Interesting info you put forth nonetheless.
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I fired several hundreds of rounds with my P88 and P99. No malfunctions, failures or damaged guns / finishes yet. Very reliable ammo and good value for its price as far as I'm concerned.

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I myself have never heard of zinc jacketed ammunition.
Silver Bear isn't zinc jacketed ... it is zinc plated


Ammunition To Go : 500rds - 9x18 Makarov Silver Bear 94gr. FMJ Ammo [A918RFMJN] - $109.95

I stock it in 9x18 makarov (which is NOT 9x19 luger/nato/para) and it performs fairly well ... as far as steel-case ammo goes, it is pretty good stuff.

I have some copper-plated stuff labaled "China Sports" in Tokarev as well, that stuff is a steel case and soft steel jacketed bullet, and the entire deal is copper-plated much like Silver Bear is zinc-plated cases.



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yes the casing is what is zinc plated, sorry didnt mean to confuse. this is from the sellers website.

Silver Bear pistol ammunition is loaded to exacting standards that are normally reserved for military specification ammunition. Silver Bear loads feature berdan primers for a longer shelf life and sure-fire ignition. Silver Bear is used by military, law enforcement and target shooters. This ammunition is new-production, non-corrosive and has non-reloadable zinc coated steel cases.

Technical Information Caliber: 9mm Luger
Bullet Weight: 115 Grains
Bullet Style: Full Metal Jacket (Bi-Metal)
Case Type: Zinc Plated Steel
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yes the casing is what is zinc plated, sorry didnt mean to confuse. this is from the sellers website.

Silver Bear pistol ammunition is loaded to exacting standards that are normally reserved for military specification ammunition. Silver Bear loads feature berdan primers for a longer shelf life and sure-fire ignition. Silver Bear is used by military, law enforcement and target shooters. This ammunition is new-production, non-corrosive and has non-reloadable zinc coated steel cases.

Technical Information Caliber: 9mm Luger
Bullet Weight: 115 Grains
Bullet Style: Full Metal Jacket (Bi-Metal)
Case Type: Zinc Plated Steel
Well, then we have a discrepancy in description because here is the quote regarding the Silver Bear line from the stateside importer on the ammo:

"This high quality ammo features distinctive nickel plating on the
cartridge case
; hence the “Silver” Bear name. Silver Bear offers high quality at reasonable prices. Other manufacturers reserve the silver cases for law enforcement, safari and specialty ammo. This product uses Berdan priming for long shelf life and sure-fire ignition. Silver Bear is loaded to exacting standards."

If it is truly nickel plated, like premium rounds, then that is a good thing. But given the price point I doubt it is truly nickel and is probably zinc like the other descriptions say.

http://www.dkgtrading.com/bearammo/sbpistol.html
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