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PPK-S 1983 VS PPK-S 2013
WALTHER PPK-S .22 1983 vs UMAREX PPK-S 2013
first - the parts of the weapons are not compatible ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Thanks for the comparison. I've got an old PP with a hole in the slide - don't ask - and was hoping that one of the new PPK/s slides would fit. Guess not.
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Excellent. I was over at another forum trying to correct some misconceptions over at the Walther PP Facebook page about the Umarex-made PPK/S and I got slammed by Yamil R. Sued who had absolutely no idea what he was talking about on these things (because he's an "Expert" with over twenty years in the gun industry and a book author, and I'm a know-nothing — as are all of you here on this forum, according to him).
I decided to exit that unmoderated Facebook page because, sure enough, "unmoderated" really means "welcome all trolls," and that kind of rudeness I just don't need when I'm trying to help somebody (besides, this is the best moderated forum on the entire web, as far as I can tell). Anyway, I'm going to definitely remember this thread, Tanfoglio, and link to it the next time I run into a gun-industry "expert" who says these things are made by Walther, and that Umarex isn't even in the manufacturing business.
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Tanfo:
Your judgment is requested. What material is used in: 1) The slide (not the insert block)? 2) The insert block? 3) The frame? 4) The trigger guard? M |
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Wow, quality vs junk IMO. Thanks for posting the differences Tanfoglio.
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Mike i think it is all aluminum alloy
the Frame is full alloy in order to achieve the weight from a real WALTHER as I have taken them for the first time in hand I thought it was a metal soft-air
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The note I got back from Walther USA's marketing folks said that the frame and slide were a zinc aluminum alloy similar to Zemak from the 50's and 60's but stronger.
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Remarkable !
About the only thing is the external appearance. Why redesign the innards ? If countries from the Balkans to China could duplicate a PP series pistol 60+ years ago, ... ... why can't Umarex ?
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I wish I still had my old PEZ dispenser PPK, I think it compared favorably to the new Umarex version.
The PEZ shooter wasn't very accurate, but tasty. I'm sorry Tanfoglio you had to buy a Umarex to make the comparison, many thanks though!
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Tanfoglio is a collector of Walther guns, good or bad. This is likely just another to add to his collection. The sad thing is that it is probable that he paid a substantially higher premium for this weapon than he did for some of his pre-war beauties...
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