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Old 12-24-2009, 11:03 AM   #31
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I wonder if they can date my British proofed/contract .22 PP that has no antler/year or N-over-eagle stamped on the barrel shroud in the ejection port. Just a bunch of eagle-over-129 in several places. Mine does not have the black paint on it. I've seen 4 of these over the years (painted and not) and not one of them has any stampings in the ejection port.
Walther should have the date that your guns was produced and packed off to the Brits. I would recommend that you send an email to Germany and request the information. You can find the email address in the Stick in the P99 sub-section, Great Sites for Walther Lovers ...

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Speaking of emails to Germany, has anyone asked Walther for the birthday of a pre-1945 PP or PPK? I'd be interested to know how they replied...

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I did once, regarding a very nice Model 9 I picked up a few years back. I received a charming reply back within two or three days from a fellow who indicated that because all of Walther's records were destroyed at the end of WWII, the company's ability to help me in my quest was severely hampered, try as they might. It was a couple of sentences at most, nicely phrased, no doubt honed over time.
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My serial # ends with "AL", does that mean it was made in ?
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:26 PM   #35
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Walter PP manufacture date and location ?????????

Hello All,
I've just joined the site and have been searching to find the manufacture date and location for my newly acquired Walther PP. I've done some reading and it seems the one I have falls through the cracks (as far as I can see). It's a 7.65 Cal. and the serial # is 4511XX with no letter before or after the SN. There is also the proof stamp of the new eagle over N on the frame and the slide, accompanies with the antler proof on the frame. and help with this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Hi, Ed; welcome to the forum. We trust that you'll enjoy your time here.

Your serial number falls under the PP model .32 caliber pistols made by the Manurhin firm in France between January 1961 (300301) and September of 1985 (474866). It's difficult to extrapolate an exact date because production wasn't consistent from year to year (although it's safe to say that yours was made closer to the end of the production run than it was toward the beginning); the French also were secretive about providing specific information about the guns they made at the plant.

All Model PP pistols made before serial number 700001 and all Model PPK pistols made before serial number 800001 were made at the Manurhin plant, even if they carry the Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do legend on the slide. From 1952 to 1989, the Manurhin plant manufactured 1.2 million PP, PPK, and PPK/S pistols in .22, .32, and .380. A good resource is Dieter Marschall's "Walther Pistols Models 1 Through P99," available online from Ucross books in Los Alamos, New Mexico, for less than $20, last I checked.

Hope that is of some help. Any chance that you can post a photo?
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It's a little camera shy, I have to get better lighting.

I forgot to mention that it has an HK right before the antler, underneath the new eagle over N on the frame.



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Hi, Ed; welcome to the forum. We trust that you'll enjoy your time here.

Your serial number falls under the PP model .32 caliber pistols made by the Manurhin firm in France between January 1961 (300301) and September of 1985 (474866). It's difficult to extrapolate an exact date because production wasn't consistent from year to year (although it's safe to say that yours was made closer to the end of the production run than it was toward the beginning); the French also were secretive about providing specific information about the guns they made at the plant.

All Model PP pistols made before serial number 700001 and all Model PPK pistols made before serial number 800001 were made at the Manurhin plant, even if they carry the Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do legend on the slide. From 1952 to 1989, the Manurhin plant manufactured 1.2 million PP, PPK, and PPK/S pistols in .22, .32, and .380. A good resource is Dieter Marschall's "Walther Pistols Models 1 Through P99," available online from Ucross books in Los Alamos, New Mexico, for less than $20, last I checked.

Hope that is of some help. Any chance that you can post a photo?
Finally got better Pix

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...0PP/WPP004.jpg

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...0PP/WPP002.jpg
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That's a fine-looking pistol, and it appears to be in wonderful shape. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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There's a lot of info in this thread that's for sure. My head is hurting. No kidding I've wanted to date/place my Walthers for a while. So both of these sn's say, would have been made in France (though they say Made in East Germany)? Or have I missed something in between? Not unusual for me.

PP .380 sn 31xxxA (6 digit number, barrel has 69/antlers/eagle over N)
PPK .380 sn 104xxxA (7 digit number, barrel has 64/antlers/eagle over N)

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