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Old 01-06-2010, 11:03 PM   #21
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That's also been the standard way to look at it among most of the members of this site in the past - until recently when some of the newer people have come in. Now they want to change things
Darn those new people.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:49 AM   #22
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Well, this has just been going on and on and on hasn't it....? I say two variations of the P99....The closed rail model gen 1 and the open rail model gen 2.......The gen 2 with the short mag release is not a 1.5 or a 2 putting the later as a 3rd model. It's as simple as an auto mfg. changing the hood or wheels or any other number of things...ex: Google up a 1991 FOrd Explorer and a 1994 Ford Explorer......Find the difference?? Now Look at a 1995 Explorer......The 91-94 are the reverse sort of speak as the open railed P99's(Same overall look with a slight difference) where as the 95 would be the closed rail.....and if this doesnt make sense then I will come back and post pictures to explain it....Sorry for the rambling...
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Idon't think anyone will ever agree - but once again, I say:

1st - beginning to 2003
2nd - 2004
3rd - 2005 to present
I just have a hard time calling 1 year's production a "generation".
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I have it like the old guys

Gen I
  • 1996-2003
Gen II
  • 2004
Gen III
  • 2005-present

however My wrench in this is that when you go to the factory it is yet another thing... They call them something entierly different

The only thing I remember (thats what you get for not taking notes)
The P99 which is getting reffered to as P99 RAD is a P99Q and is a Walther gun... no matter what the Polish make out of it
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I have it like the old guys

Gen I
  • 1996-2003
Gen II
  • 2004
Gen III
  • 2005-present

however My wrench in this is that when you go to the factory it is yet another thing... They call them something entierly different

The only thing I remember (thats what you get for not taking notes)
The P99 which is getting reffered to as P99 RAD is a P99Q and is a Walther gun... no matter what the Polish make out of it
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:31 AM   #26
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and just ah FTI

First 6000 units of Gen 1 are split triggers
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now the "loaded" question

Which gen is best and why? Split trigger too.



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to the last 2 posts.....
it was more than 6000..... #010378 is the last I have recorded so far with the split trigger and serial started at 001001

the split trigger was a design to prevent the trigger from being pulled if it was not evenely pulled back
to read more and see pics follow the link...
http://lundestudio.com/WaltherP99FAQ/VII/4.html
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Which gen is best and why? Split trigger too.
That would all be a matter of personal, subjective taste, MiamiMutt. My only experience is with a Generation 3 P99c AS, which I positively love, so my opinion would naturally be biased in favor of that particular generation and trigger model . . . although there's a full-size Generation 1 P99 in the Trading Post forum that looks mighty tempting at $500. Plus it's an Interarms import, which would look nifty next to my Interarms PPK/S.
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My opinion on this Generational debate...

I don't care if it goes 1,2,3 or 1, 1.5, 2. Personally, I go with the "1.5" sequence. I feel that the mag release was an in-between thing; the rest of the gun changed, but the mag release (for whatever reason) was done later.

But as to the thinking that there are only 2 gens - that's simply not the case. Clearly, Walther has shipped 3 different frame/slide configurations.

We use 3 different nomenclatures so that our fellow Walther enthusiasts will know what the heck we're talking about when we talk about a particular subject - say, holsters or rail accessories (which are Gen dependent) - or when someone's asking what type of P99 someone has for sale (cosmetic and/or functional). The mag release isn't always a factor, but it's nonetheless just a verbal way of describing the situation. It's just faster than saying "Gen 2 with a Gen 1-style mag release".

I don't even want to get into rollmarks vs laser engraving... but if anyone knows why Walther seemed to change to one or the other based on the phase of the moon, pls chime in.

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