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DNS 02-15-2017 01:24 PM

Can you dry fire the creed?
 
Does it hurt to dry fire it? It's not mentioned in the manual.

POWERDOG 02-15-2017 01:46 PM

yes, you can ... if a gun can't handle dry fire she should not be on the market for sale.

UniversalExports 02-15-2017 02:46 PM

Most center-fires can be safely dry fired, although there are exceptions such as the Beretta Tomcat.

Most rim-fires cannot be safely dry fired because doing so will cause the firing pin to strike directly against the chamber face where the ammo's rim would normally be. Exceptions to this rule include most Ruger semiautomatic rim-fires, and even the Ruger rim-fire revolvers equipped with a transfer bar between the hammer and the firing pin.

Gotyour6 03-02-2017 03:05 PM

I dry fired one at the guns store today...no issue and the salesperson didn't freak out:eek:. It has a nice trigger and looks like a great value.

MGMike 03-02-2017 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POWERDOG (Post 727682)
yes, you can ... if a gun can't handle dry fire she should not be on the market for sale.

That could be said for a lot of guns that are on the market anyway.

M

MGMike 03-02-2017 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniversalExports (Post 727746)
...
... Exceptions to this rule include most Ruger semiautomatic rim-fires, and even the Ruger rim-fire revolvers equipped with a transfer bar between the hammer and the firing pin.

Without further investigation, I won't dispute your conclusion but why would a transfer bar make any difference?

M

UniversalExports 03-02-2017 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGMike (Post 743786)
Without further investigation, I won't dispute your conclusion but why would a transfer bar make any difference?

M

Don't know why that is, Mike, but directly from Ruger's "New Model" Convertible Six manual:

Quote:

DRY-FIRING: Going through the actions of cocking, aiming, and pulling the trigger of an unloaded gun is known as “Dry Firing.” It can be useful to learn the “feel” of your revolver. Be certain the revolver is unloaded and that the gun is pointing in a safe direction even when practicing by dry-firing. The RugerŪnew model single-action revolvers can be dry-fired without damage to the firing pin or other components.

MGMike 03-03-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniversalExports (Post 743842)
Don't know why that is, Mike, but directly from Ruger's "New Model" Convertible Six manual:

I think you're reading something into it that's not there. Where does it say that it's the transfer bar that allows it?

M

UniversalExports 03-03-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGMike (Post 744402)
I think you're reading something into it that's not there. Where does it say that it's the transfer bar that allows it?

M

It doesn't. You may be correct. However the previous "Old Model" manual does not address dry fire, and there are numerous reports of dry fire cylinder damage on those that have not had the conversion to the transfer bar. As such, I thought I was making a pretty valid assumption.

Was I wrong to do so?

MGMike 03-03-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniversalExports (Post 744450)
I... As such, I thought I was making a pretty valid assumption.

Was I wrong to do so?

U.E. : I don't know, I don't have either of those Rugers to look at. But I suspect that if there is any difference between them regarding susceptibility to damage from dry-firing, it's probably found in the design of the firing pin or in the rim counterbores of the cylinder.

The transfer bar will "transfer" the impact of the hammer to the firing pin whenever the hammer is cocked and the trigger is pulled. The gun can't tell whether the chambers are loaded or not; the impact on the back of the firing pin will be exactly the same.

M


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