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Old 12-23-2016, 12:13 PM   #11
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I think Walther was
1) Embarrased by people saying that the PPX "looks like a High Point."
2) Desirous of a new start in the low-cost market, but didn't see a need for a whole new design.

So they tweaked the looks and (hopefully) fixed any reliability issues uncovered in the PPX. Like the barrel.
Then they renamed it.
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Old 12-23-2016, 05:54 PM   #12
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... He also said this barrel had been somewhat improved, whatever that means. ...
That means it is somewhat less likely, in his opinion, to shoot loose.

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P.S. It is a sad commentary when the outstanding virtue of any Walther is that it's cheap.
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Old 12-31-2016, 05:54 PM   #13
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I just bought a Creed on gunbroker for 300. We'll see what I think. I don't have a PPX I don't like the glock like trigger. Yes, I have a PPS. I doubt I'll like the creed more than my P99, which is about my favorite pistol of all time.
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:06 PM   #14
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The PPS has more of a "glock like" trigger (whatever the hell THAT means?) than the PPQ.

Sarcasm aside, the PPS actions is about as close to a Block...errr Glob..er....as one can get and NOT have Glock stamped on the slide.

The PPQ is an altogether different animal in that it is basically a SAO setup....


In terms of operation, all are the same. You aim, squeeze, and bang.

The PPQ is (usually) the smoothest, lightest, and also has less reset than the PPS.


Now, how any of this got dragged into the PPX/Creed discussion is beyond. The few PPX' that I've handled and dry fired all had wonderful triggers, much nicer than I'd expect on a a sub 400 dollar handgun. I'm still in a state of awe that I don't as yet own at least one PPX, as I have at least two each of the other three pistol lines mentioned in this thread.

As for cheap=less value....yeah, an HK costs close to a grand, American, with Sig even more.

But have you ever heard of a PPQ trigger being compared to an HK unfavorably? (The VP9 is a notable exception. It too is a damned phenomenal piece. I'd be proud to own one. And it's not even close to a grand, either. Hmmm.)
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The PPS has more of a "glock like" trigger (whatever the hell THAT means?) than the PPQ.

Sarcasm aside, the PPS actions is about as close to a Block...errr Glob..er....as one can get and NOT have Glock stamped on the slide.

The PPQ is an altogether different animal in that it is basically a SAO setup....


In terms of operation, all are the same. You aim, squeeze, and bang.

The PPQ is (usually) the smoothest, lightest, and also has less reset than the PPS.


Now, how any of this got dragged into the PPX/Creed discussion is beyond. The few PPX' that I've handled and dry fired all had wonderful triggers, much nicer than I'd expect on a a sub 400 dollar handgun. I'm still in a state of awe that I don't as yet own at least one PPX, as I have at least two each of the other three pistol lines mentioned in this thread.

As for cheap=less value....yeah, an HK costs close to a grand, American, with Sig even more.

But have you ever heard of a PPQ trigger being compared to an HK unfavorably? (The VP9 is a notable exception. It too is a damned phenomenal piece. I'd be proud to own one. And it's not even close to a grand, either. Hmmm.)
Were you meaning "PPX" where you typed "PPS" or were you changing the subject?
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Were you meaning "PPX" where you typed "PPS" or were you changing the subject?
He was responding to the post immediately preceding his, from Necron99.
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Old 12-31-2016, 06:45 PM   #17
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Yup ^.

The PPX also doesn't have what I'd call a "glock style" trigger, beyond, again, aiming and squeezing.


It IS much nicer than anything wearing a word that starts with G and rhymes with block. LOL
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Old 12-31-2016, 07:04 PM   #18
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I haven't purchased a PPQ because I don't particularly like the double trigger thing. I only said "yes, I know I have a pps" because after making making such a statement, people on forums tend to go "AH HA! BUT YOU HAVE A PPS!" because it's in the signature. I have no doubt the PPQ is BETTER than a Glock. I detest glocks.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:30 AM   #19
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The PPQ and PPX have an HK LEM like trigger, nothing like a Glock trigger, I'm talking more feel than anything. The light LEM is very similar to this trigger though it is true DAO with a double strike. My PPX has a lighter break than any of my HK light LEM triggers, I prefer it to the LEM but it has its limitations as well.
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I think this may provide a good read for those of you interested.
https://thearmsguide.com/11363/walth...-walther-less/
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