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Old 10-05-2019, 09:08 PM   #1
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Is my post war P38 really a P1?

Hello folks! Recently I got a Walther P38 stamped 01/59. The slide is parkerized, and the frame is light, indicating that it is made of alloy. The gun even has one of the earlier thin slides with the slide serrations behind the decocker lever. While the P1 designation was not used during the 50's and 60's, the P1 features are present in this gun. So what is the proper nomenclature for this pistol- P38 or P1? Thanks folks!
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As far as I know, P1 was the originally the designation for a Bundeswehr contracted weapon based on the P38, but being a business, Walther happily made it whatever you asked for (hence nomenclatures were pretty much made concurrently), P38, P38-II, or P1. Everything after that was variations on a theme.


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... So what is the proper nomenclature for this pistol- P38 or P1? ...
It is what is says it is. Just read it.

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As Matthanne said, it is a P38, but made after the war with an alloy frame. The P1 designation is a police "name" but the post war P38 and P1 are virtually the same gun, with just a name change. (The P1 evolves over the next decade+ or so with a reinforcing bolt added and some other basically cosmetic changes.)


But if you mean is it an "original" P38 with a steel frame then the answer is, no, it is not.
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Acc. to the date of commissioning (01/59) the designation P1 was not used. Between Jun. '57 and Sept. '63 Walther delivered only P38 to German Bundeswehr.
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Acc. to the date of commissioning (01/59) the designation P1 was not used. Between Jun. '57 and Sept. '63 Walther delivered only P38 to German Bundeswehr.
Exactly. My ZDV 3/15 from February 1966 reads "Die Ausbildung mit der Pistole P 1 .... "and replaced Merkblätter der Infanterie Nr. 11"Die Pistole P 38 Walther vom März 1959."
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As Matthanne said, it is a P38, but made after the war with an alloy frame. The P1 designation is a police "name" but the post war P38 and P1 are virtually the same gun, with just a name change. (The P1 evolves over the next decade+ or so with a reinforcing bolt added and some other basically cosmetic changes.)


But if you mean is it an "original" P38 with a steel frame then the answer is, no, it is not.
The P38 was also made with a steel frame after WWII. The pre-war version is not a P38 but a P.38.
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