CCP Failure to Feed and Failure to Eject

[1917-1911M]

It doesn't seem possible for the top round to be shoved under the feed ramp even with the removal of a little steel at the nose of the mag. The second round though must be retained by the face of the mag because it certainly looks low enough to catch under the feed ramp if too much material is removed. I don't think rounds sit still in a mag when the pistol is fired. Which means to me there is no point in tapping the loaded mag against your head. That might be of benefit in a 20 or 30 round AR mag with a softer recoiling round. It would seem there might be no problem with the top round sliding forward a bit since the breech rail is going to shove it home hopefully. But, some firearms are a bit touchy about the mag, ramp, chamber entrance....even the shape of the nose of a round. And, some feed anything. 1917

[Jaake]

I had no clue until now there were different magazine letter codes. Both of mine are marked e. Also they have a peep hole for an 8th round but that’s not happening. No way an 8th round will fit.

[Meho1277]

Well.....final post of the night, i am not disputing anyones findings, but how can there be so many inconsistencies here. Here are some more freaking pictures, lol😟😟😟that shows that the lower rounds sit at a flatter angle, as you can see, there is a gap between the top and second round, evident between the casings, i also took pic of my wilson combat 45 mag, and it shows the same gap. All that i am saying is, the nose of the round can tip down before it hits the ramp and catch on the front of the mag, and IF for some reason you get a less than perfect cycle, ie...thumb touching slide, dirt, grit ect....with the lighter recoil spring, all of this could cause a failure to feed. Maybe a little bit stronger recoil spring would overcome all of this, idk, but as you can see on the Wilson Combat 45, the opening is bigger, naturally the 45 round is bigger, but opening is bigger in the front of the mag to allow for the nose drop before it hits the ramp

[chandler5566]

Originally Posted by 1917-1911M

So some magazines keep all the rounds pressed together and others hold the stack down with only the top round slanting up to match the bottom of the mag lips???? 1917

No, sorry....I misstated the description of the rounds below the top round. They do flatten out as you load up to 8 rounds. Since the butt plate holder sits flat on the bottom the internal rounds will flatten out as they approach the bottom.

[Meho1277]

Ok 3 more......thats it
1st round sitting naturally
2nd how the nose dives when first leaving the magazine
3rd how far the nose can dive
Good night its 10 pm and my alarm goes off at 3 50 am😴😴😴

[Meho1277]

Originally Posted by Jaake

I had no clue until now there were different magazine letter codes. Both of mine are marked e. Also they have a peep hole for an 8th round but that’s not happening. No way an 8th round will fit.

Are you saying that 8 rounds will not fit in your magazines? You need to check that the floorplate holder is in correctly. Here's a picture how they should be assembled.

[Meho1277]

Originally Posted by Meho1277

I dont know why I have never metioned this before, maybe because it was early in my membership, although, I have been defending this firearm from day one, or maybe I just thought it was an insignificant modification, but anyway, I discovered that the casing of a round could possibly hit on the front edge of the magazine, before it starts up the ramp while being cycled. So, I ground about 3/32's out of the front relief portion of the magazine,marked in red below, and slightly beveled the back side of the relief to prevent this from happening. Whether this is one of the reasons that I am not having the troubles that others experience, I dont know, but I thought I would share, to possibly help others.

What I find even more intriguing is...
I posted this very same post, first, under a thread that says
"mine works fine" and only 2 others commented on it, I put the same words (cuz i copied and pasted), I put the same words under a thread that says " failure to eject/feed" and I get all kinds of discussion on the topic. Thats what I find interesting. Are we only reading about the failures of the CCP, or do we like to hear the good as well?
Hmmmm

[imaoldfart]

Ha....its in our DNA.....we ALWAYS want to hear about the bad. Why do we watch the news? They almost NEVER have anything good to say. As for me, I only watch the news cuz they put it on before the weather. If they'd do the weather forecast first, I'd be turning the TV off after that, either going to bed or if the sun is still up, I'd change channels and watch Jack Benny re-runs.

[Meho1277]

Originally Posted by imaoldfart

Ha....its in our DNA.....we ALWAYS want to hear about the bad. Why do we watch the news? They almost NEVER have anything good to say. As for me, I only watch the news cuz they put it on before the weather. If they'd do the weather forecast first, I'd be turning the TV off after that, either going to bed or if the sun is still up, I'd change channels and watch Jack Benny re-runs.

WOW! Jack Benny......you are an old fart....with all due respect!!!

[1917-1911M]

That's the ones I find most interesting. I'm interested in why things don't work.. "Bought a new pistol, it shoots great." Not so much. I also read the negative and mid range reviews of products at Amazon for example. Some are baloney but some are the ones with really well explain, point by point reasons for the lack of a stellar review. That, and I didn't see your post on the mags. I've been reading reviews on the pistol since it first came out. I miss some of the posts though.

I've seen plenty of magazines that stack the rounds exactly like yours do and they function fine. I've been studying and modifying on the P22 since almost day one. Something doesn't work...I want to see why and if I can do anything about it. I'm not concerned with defending the little pistol at all. Walther should have gotten it right from the get go. No excuse for broken slides. No excuse for a hammer shape that hangs up the slide. No excuse for a poorly designed extractor that aids in hitting you right between the eyes with spend cases....yet, with a few mods the pistol can run 100%. Walther has adapted a few of the changes. Captive recoil spring....way over due. Aluminum slide...still way over due. I'm only tolerable of the pistol because it is a plinker and not a self defense pistol. If Walther called it a self defense pistol it would be a large "fail". in my opinion.

I like your modification....I just want to know why...the pistol has units that run 100% and others that don't run at all. Why?

Everyone that digs into their pistol with a critical eye benefits the understanding of what might be wrong. Would it be like Walther to put out a mag that doesn't feed. Absolutely....they did it twice with the P22. They aren't the only ones...don't these pistol manufacturers test their pistols anymore before release. Ruger MK III with a steel loaded chamber indicator sticking out the left side of the receiver. Bang that sucker into something like the edge of the desk and it would fire the round....how did they miss that? The SR22 compact....crushing the take down lever under recoil which allowed the slide and recoil spring to launch down range...didn't testing show that issue??? It isn't unique to Walther which is why a number of folks have sworn off being an early purchaser of any new firearm.

So yes, I'm interested in problems and what can be done about them. Yep, I like to know what stops the slide....seems a lot of owners didn't understand it...gun in hand but understanding how the gun functions can rule out a lot of things you don't need to look at. Keep up the good work. Walther might learn something. 1917