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Old 03-21-2019, 09:41 AM   #1
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Has the MAIN problem with the CCP been identified?

I have what hundreds of others have - a CCP that is so unreliable it sits in a desk drawer unused.

Has any cause been identified? I realize there may be more than one, but I would like to find a gunsmith willing to take a crack at fixing mine. I have given up on Walther's customer (no) service.

With any other handgun I would probably just cut my losses and to sell it as scrap, but I really enjoy shooting this gun. It is my favorite as far as ergo and balance. My love-hate relationship!
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:36 PM   #2
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It would seem sometimes it is the shooter and sometimes it may be the gun.

I bought my CCP M1 for $100 because the original owner said it "does not cycle reliably. Consistent Fail to eject/Fail to feed issue. Not reliable. Stated he was not limp wristing"

I took the chance. I field stripped it. Did a through cleaning and lube, including the magazines.
Assembled leaving the gas tube dry.

To date I have put 200 rounds of Federal Champion 115 gr. brass ammo with only 1 problem:

1 fail to feed jam, nose dived round, 2nd round of 2nd mag. First range trip after purchase and cleaning. Myself shooting.

Strange how 2 different shooters can have 2 very different results.
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I'm good for $51 for one cause I want to see what all is wrong with one. I particularly want one that doesn't work. 1917
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Has any cause been identified?



Yes. It's the three letters on the slide. "CCP"

It's actually an acronym, Cheap, Crappy Pistol.

There's just as many good reports as there are bad. I wouldn't be afraid to buy one, provided I can have the time to fire a few hundred rounds before I fill out the 4473 and make it permanent.
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Hmmmm I have about 1700 rounds through mine, with 4 or 5 FTE ie....stovepipe. I see no problem with that. Was probably more my fault than the guns, it all happened so fast, i couldn't tell for sure.

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I realize some folks have had fewer problems, and I also understand that handling can effect a handgun's accuracy and reliability. I am a professionally trained and experienced shooter. I own six other handguns of various brands (Ruger, Taurus, Sig, S&W) and I TRUST all of them in a life or death situation.

However . . .

My CCP is flawed and so are hundreds of others I have tried everything, including a trip back to the factory. I am not alone in this.

What I was looking for from you folks - has anyone identified particular physical flaws or defects that can be addressed independently?

Like I said before, I want to FIX it, not just gripe about it.
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What I was looking for from you folks - has anyone identified particular physical flaws or defects that can be addressed independently?

It would help if you specified the model and your issues first. Then perhaps we could provide some assistance. That said, in general virtually all issues discovered and reported in 1917's sticky (see link below) required sending the pistol to Ft Smith.

https://www.waltherforums.com/forum/...ng-thread.html
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Old 03-22-2019, 01:34 PM   #8
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That link was a big help. Thanks!

My CCP is an M1, the constant problem is FTE.

I thought I had the problem solved a while ago when it shot Winchester Train ammo with a far less FTE than normal (normal is 30% - no kidding). But now it won't even shoot that. I clean it after each trip to the range, and I am thorough.
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Send it to ft smith, it has a lifetime warranty.
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I have no idea whether FTE means a Failure to Eject, or Extract, the acronym for a sexual disorder, or some type of carcinogenic plastic. But I know this --from experience-- that diagnosis precedes the remedy, and will tell you if it's even curable (though my guess is that it's not-- in which case trying to insist on satisfaction from a so-called "Legendary" Lifetime Warranty is a gross waste of time and effort).

In my opinion, it's a flawed design, poorly executed.

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