Recall Notification: Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols

tba02 · 02-20-2009, 11:11 PM

Smith & Wesson has identified a condition that may exist in certain PPK and PPK/S pistols which may permit a round to be discharged without the trigger being pulled. When the manual safety is disengaged, Smith & Wesson’s Product Engineering Group has determined that the possibility exists in certain firearms that lowering the hammer may cause a chambered round to fire.

More at;

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...t ionId=10506
or
http://tinyurl.com/ppkrecall

Makaddict · 02-21-2009, 01:23 AM

thats a heap of guns!!!

searcher451 · 02-21-2009, 02:15 AM

That's also going to affect a lot of gun owners who frequent this forum, myself included. Thanks for the heads-up, tba02. I may have to break out the PPS to use as a carry gun in the meantime.

arkrunner · 02-21-2009, 09:14 AM

Thanks soo much. My ppks that I've been having problems with was in the first group of Serial number. I guess smith gets it back thanks elton

KsThumper · 02-21-2009, 12:47 PM

Through no fault of Carl Walther Sportwaffen GmbH, the continuing problems at Smith & Wesson will only further damage the reputation of the Walther brand.

The business relationship is becoming strained and imports of German-made Walthers have slowed to a trickle.

IMO, S&W has intentionaly slowed imports so as to sell more S&W manufactured handguns and Walther GmbH is reluctent to import weapons through a company with so may problems.

It is time for Walther Sportwaffen GmbH to find a new American importer.

zenner22 · 02-21-2009, 02:18 PM

Holy crap, are you kidding me? My PPK/S has to make a third trip back to the factory? They are recalling all PPK and PPK/S pistols that they made since 2002. How can this possibly happen? S&W is such a reputable company, and yet they couldn't possibly have screwed up the Walther PPK license any more than they have. It is unbelievable. This is going to cost them a lot of money. Serious damage is being done to the Walther brand's reputation and it looks like it is SW's fault.

Congrats for doing the recall (although they would pretty much be forced to for liability reasons) but this gun has been around for decades! Why is the SW version so bad?

DoC_DaR · 02-21-2009, 05:17 PM

Mine falls in this group. Shame. I will have to pick a different daily carry. Has been a good piece so far. Must not be a huge defect if it took this many years to see. With any firearm, small defect can cause an enormous problem.

zenner22 · 02-21-2009, 07:32 PM

Wonder if any of this would relate to the "hammer bounce" problem many (including myself) have experienced?

Milspec · 02-21-2009, 08:10 PM

My S&W PPK/s has to go back too. Sure hope it goes faster then the Ruger LCP recall...that took three months...

Milspec

zenner22 · 02-21-2009, 08:26 PM

By the looks of the recall list it is every single PPK and PPK/S they have sold for the past 7 years. That is a ton of guns! I'd say if you get yours back in three months that would be fast turnaround for a recall of this size.

The expense of all this has to be astronomical!

02-20-2009, 11:11 PM	#1
tba02 Supporting Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 52	Recall Notification: Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols Smith & Wesson has identified a condition that may exist in certain PPK and PPK/S pistols which may permit a round to be discharged without the trigger being pulled. When the manual safety is disengaged, Smith & Wesson’s Product Engineering Group has determined that the possibility exists in certain firearms that lowering the hammer may cause a chambered round to fire. More at; http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...t ionId=10506 or http://tinyurl.com/ppkrecall

02-21-2009, 02:15 AM	#3
searcher451 Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,493	That's also going to affect a lot of gun owners who frequent this forum, myself included. Thanks for the heads-up, tba02. I may have to break out the PPS to use as a carry gun in the meantime. __________________ Searcher 451 "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." _ Attributed variously to Benjamin Franklin, Robert Heinlein, James Bovard, R.H. Tawney, Thomas Jefferson, Isaac Asimov, Larry Flynt, Stephen King, Max Blake ... and others

02-21-2009, 12:47 PM	#5
KsThumper Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 87	Through no fault of Carl Walther Sportwaffen GmbH, the continuing problems at Smith & Wesson will only further damage the reputation of the Walther brand. The business relationship is becoming strained and imports of German-made Walthers have slowed to a trickle. IMO, S&W has intentionaly slowed imports so as to sell more S&W manufactured handguns and Walther GmbH is reluctent to import weapons through a company with so may problems. It is time for Walther Sportwaffen GmbH to find a new American importer. __________________ I'll keep my guns, freedom & money .... YOU CAN KEEP THE "CHANGE!"

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02-21-2009, 01:23 AM	#2
Makaddict Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbia,S.C. Posts: 232	thats a heap of guns!!!

02-21-2009, 09:14 AM	#4
arkrunner Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: branson mo Posts: 9	Thanks soo much. My ppks that I've been having problems with was in the first group of Serial number. I guess smith gets it back thanks elton

02-21-2009, 02:18 PM	#6
zenner22 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 178	Holy crap, are you kidding me? My PPK/S has to make a third trip back to the factory? They are recalling all PPK and PPK/S pistols that they made since 2002. How can this possibly happen? S&W is such a reputable company, and yet they couldn't possibly have screwed up the Walther PPK license any more than they have. It is unbelievable. This is going to cost them a lot of money. Serious damage is being done to the Walther brand's reputation and it looks like it is SW's fault. Congrats for doing the recall (although they would pretty much be forced to for liability reasons) but this gun has been around for decades! Why is the SW version so bad?

02-21-2009, 05:17 PM	#7
DoC_DaR Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 13	Mine falls in this group. Shame. I will have to pick a different daily carry. Has been a good piece so far. Must not be a huge defect if it took this many years to see. With any firearm, small defect can cause an enormous problem.

02-21-2009, 07:32 PM	#8
zenner22 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 178	Wonder if any of this would relate to the "hammer bounce" problem many (including myself) have experienced?

02-21-2009, 08:10 PM	#9
Milspec Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 582	My S&W PPK/s has to go back too. Sure hope it goes faster then the Ruger LCP recall...that took three months... Milspec

02-21-2009, 08:26 PM	#10
zenner22 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 178	By the looks of the recall list it is every single PPK and PPK/S they have sold for the past 7 years. That is a ton of guns! I'd say if you get yours back in three months that would be fast turnaround for a recall of this size. The expense of all this has to be astronomical!