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Old 02-25-2011, 04:55 PM   #1
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G22 problems SOLVED (just remove the stupid springs)

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Bought the G22 a little while ago because im a fan of the bullpup design. On the first firing it performed flawlessly, and really impressed me. went through 500 rounds or so with no problems at all, in fact i was impressed with its accuracy and performance. I ran into problems when i field stripped it to clean it:

There were many loose parts that just seemed to fly off the gun when it was dissasembled, and in the confusion, im pretty sure i put the bolt latch spring in wrong. I assume this because when i go to fire it again 2 things happened:

1: on the final round the bolt locked to the rear. fine, only it wouldnt go back forward. AT ALL. the only way i could get the bolt to go forward again was to dissasemble it. If your not familiar with the G22, there is no bolt release button, you have to pull the charging back and let it ride forward.

2: the magazine would no longer seat properly, you really had to slam that sucker in there for it to lock.

I went high and to the right. I was seconds away from smashing the stupid thing and leaving it at the range, but i heard walther had excellent customer service, so i figured id give it a shot.

Called walther, they send me a useless but detailed diagram of the gun. Ok fine then, its smash time. Then i think to myself: if you have to reach around and pull the bolt back anyway to send the bolt home, wtf is the point of having a lockback function at all? in fact, it seems to be causing a huge problem. Why dont i just take the whole freaking spring out and not worry about it?

so thats what i did. I took the spring out (noticed it was bent really bad too) and just as im reassemballing it i realize the other spring they tell you not to lose (magazine latch spring or something like that) somehow fell off. THESE 2 STUPID SPRINGS ARE THE CAUSE OF 90% OF THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE G22. you think walther would just fix it but thats not the point. the point is i put it all back together without either spring inside the gun, and the thing works flawlessly. and i mean FLAWLESSLY.

All of a sudden the magazines are seating perfectly, the bolt locks to the rear on the final shot, and rides back home when you slap in a new magazine. In fact it works exactly the same as it did when i first got it.

Maybe they do something necessary that i dont know about, and maybe theres someone out there who knows more about it, but for right now they seem completely useless.

Went through another box of federal (500 rounds or so) and everything worked great and i couldnt be happier.
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:23 AM   #2
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Smile Hate those springs

I purchased a used G22 a few weeks ago. It was in as new condition with the cloth carrying case and a reddot sight. I tried using CCI mini-mags and they didn't seem to feed or eject properly. I also tried Federal Game Shoks and they worked fine. I took the rifle home and decided to try to clean it. Of course you know what happens then. LOL. There go the two little springs. I took it apart at least 8 times and I couldn't get the slide stop spring in no matter how hard I tried. Of course, after a while of getting very frustrated, I lost both springs. Finally I put the gun back together without the two springs. It seems to function normally, but I haven't taken it to the range to check it out. I read your article about leaving out the springs, and that is why I decided to try the same. Thanks for posting this article. Walther never seems to have any parts for the G22. They say they come from Germany and that is why it takes so long. However, if they are a necessary item, then they should have enough on hand and also to reorder before they run low. Of course, Walther suggested NOT using the rifle without all the springs.
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:44 PM   #3
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What springs am I removing?
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:55 PM   #4
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I have had a G22 since they first hi the market. I don't shoot it a lot, but it has been very reliable. It is not my most accurate .22 rifle but a fun rifle to shoot and draws a crown at the range.

Since this thread is concerning the Springs, yep you can lose one in a heart beat and this is the one thing I don't like about the rifle. Otherwise she is fun. After the first cleaning, I saw which springs I could lose and bought 2 sets of spares. Problem solved.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:36 AM   #5
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I bought a second hand G22. Nice gun. But... tried to clean it... I now can only fire one shot and then I need to reload. But most of the time the one bullet gets stuck. I need to remove the magazine and try again. The bullets are not correctly positioned in front of the barrel. A few times the bullet exploded in the gun... I think a magazine problem: iot doesn't "feed" the rounds properly.
I want to try the "trick" with the springs. Which springs exactly? I guess not the small/almost invisible one? Is it possible to upload a jpg? Thanks.

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Old 01-01-2013, 02:03 AM   #6
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Talking Love my G22

I bought my G about 7 years ago. Been thru alot with it. Early years had a few issue's. Haven't lost springs at all. But i'm gonna try going without them. I've learned different rounds absolutely won't fire at all. Even had to send it into Walther for repair which after it got goin was a pretty quick turn on the repair. And got a case out of it. They repaired a broken pin inside the receiver. It was inside where you would have to remove the 2 or 3 phillips screws. The G22 is really a not very well engineered rifle, just looking at the guts of the receiver is dissapointing. But it's accurate, fun and my favorite weapon. I seem to think mine has evolved a little on handling the rounds for the good. But on my firing of the last round of the magazine the bolt never stays open.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:30 PM   #7
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G22 should be taken apart in clear bag only-take no chances to loose any spring.
Gun is built very well and when clean should fire.
Problem is ammo- this is not Glock 17 nor AK 47.
22LR ammo production due to to the market is out of control.
If you don't mind it, would you report ammo that goes through.
Jake, who is technical support guy for Smiths recommends sub- sonic.
Tell me...
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:00 AM   #8
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With my G22, I've had the best luck with Remington Sub-Sonics. Not 100% trouble-free, but much better than Remington Golden Bullets and CCI's. What's odd is my P22 eats up RGBs and anything CCI without problems.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:48 PM   #9
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Thanks,
I'll try it and I'i let you know what goes through mine.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:57 PM   #10
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...22LR ammo production due to to the market is out of control. If you don't mind it, would you report ammo that goes through.
Tell me...
No problems with Federal Bulk or Winchester 555 bulk. Nothing but failures to feed with Remingtons GB.

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